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What is stun % of Bash?

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Selladyn, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. Selladyn

    Selladyn Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, I'm wondering if level 10 Bash using knuckles is 100% stun rate? I'm attempting to spare some skill points by not needing to purchase Shield Bash. I believe shield bash and shield cannon are 100% stun at level 10? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am aware the motion speed of bash is horrible, yet it will be (swift) in any combo I utilize it in.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Its not 100% not even close in fact.
    Its 50% with knux at lvl10 iirc
     
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    Selladyn Well-Known Member

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    Ugghh really.... Haha so wtf's the point.... OOhhh I read your Become more Beefy thread, so much useful information for my brawler tank. Thank you so much! shield, arm, and add are refined to +C, DG's (Anniversary V, BSoD), Brigandine NPC (Arco), Jiangshi (not slotted, Grrrr), 2 slotted Mistletoe Talisman (stone mercenary, +150MP) and of course Drills (Excavated Golem).

    My farm list WAS Corroded Knight Captain up until I read your thread, it is now of course Grylle. In time I will eventually replace mp+150 with Aranea, and I see no point in farming / spending millions on stone mercenary upgrade.

    Haha I was using Gloria level 10 till I read your thread, now I'll be respeccing to Sanctuary! Now to find out where to shave skill points to purchase Shield Bash level 10..... I'm level 129 and will have 187 skill points when I reach level 130.

    I am Hoping you reply to my response to your reply sir, cause I got a couple questions.... smash level 10 or Assault Attack level 10? Smash is great for Imitacia, Assault attack is awesome for Black Knight, does AA work at interrupting Imitacia's casting? 255 Vitality 90 Mental 2 in some random stat, or 100 Mental the rest in Vitality? Haha, yes I know I should go out and test these for myself, yet my phone burned and it will be a couple days before I get a replacement.... It may well work out to my benefit as I will have time to use the skill point simulator before Ugghh spending another 30 orbs..... Also, is Arco really any better than Tortuga? Both would be ideal of course!
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Smash lvl6 100% flinch for knux 75% for non knux stays the same at lvl10. About assault attack and knockback I am not sure myself some bosses it actually works as an interrupt to cancel attacks (e.g. Bkod), some bosses it just pushes the boss backwards but wont cancel any of their aoes which makes it dangerous if they use close range aoe (e.g. Jade), some bosses knockback just doesnt work at all no push no interrupt nothing (e.g. Zolban) but if you still want it for knockback effect lvl5 is already 100% knockback for shield sub char which you will get regardless if you take perfect defence. Not sure about imitacia.

    100Mtl rest Vit good too, I suggest dont get more than 20k HP if you are using p def very often.
    Iconos adds almost double the amount of arco even on current cap lol. Dunno why people like to overprice tank xtas. I am gonna stick with tortuga till they release its enhancer which along with forestia enhancer I honestly would pay 2-3m coz its more worth it.
     
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    Selladyn Well-Known Member

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    Niiiccee! haha awesome, Smash lvl 6 AA lvl 5 it will be!! Hehe, now I can afford some much needed MP boost (Level 7), Heavy Armour and Advanced Guard (lvl 10) YaY!! I originally purchased Arco cause I was under the impression high Defence has value.... I'll be taking it out and putting in Tortuga. Hmmmm, do you happen to know the going rate on an extraction crystal Sir Mayam? It'd be nice to get a return for the 3.6m I spent on it.... And yes I usually integrate P Def in my default combo, something like: smash/AA> shell break (save)> P. def. (swift)> Sonic Wave/Holy Fist (swift)> Shield Bash/Earthbind (swift). It is Amazing how often I get a heal out of it!

    ..... My build is now complete, LoL, for now......
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Extract price varies from 200-300k prolly on the time you are looking for it, looking to buy some too lol
     
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    You are a wealth of knowledge sir Mayam! Do you happen to know what level Sonic Wave needs to be for 100% tumble, and I'm curious if Heavy Smash has a point where it reaches 100% Lethargy. 25% damage reduction. Is. Awesome!
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Both sonic and hs need lvl10 to be 100%. Only smash is a skill that gets 100% below lvl10
    Sonic is only 55% tumble for knux and range is pretty low too at lvl1 so I suggest lvl it 5+
    While hs is 73% lethargy even at lvl1 for knux so its ok if kept at lvl1-5
     
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    hmm it depends on mobs ailment resistance actually. but idk the percentage >_<
    but for normal boss run.
    my skill setup is at
    smash lv 6, swave lv 8, bash lv 5.
    as long as ailment is not in cool-down. its mostlikely able to stun lock any enemies with smash > Sbreak (save> swave(Swift)> bash(swift) combo
     
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    I alwas see people put Perfect Defense in a combo sequence and that's kinda confused me. Like, issit always 100% in time to block the enemy attack when you are doing your combo?

    I mean, why not put it in a separated shortcut and just press it whenever needed (of course timing it with the enemy attack).
     
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    My shortcut is Bag,p.def,HH and Astute.
    Combo with p.def: hH>w.cry(save)>pdef(cons)>astute(smite)>impact(cons)>BS(smite)>TS(cons)
    I dont like Q.Aura so I change it to p.def for +0 phys.prorate.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    For certain bosses pdef even if in combo still activates allowing easy 10%hp heal.
    But even if that is not the case pdef is a really good filler skill or starter skill for example with my 1h shield I use this combo:-
    Pdef + war cry(save) + impact(cons) + tempest(smite) + astute(swift)
    This combo is a long range combo for 1h which I feel is something sword users really need.
    Also on bg shield:-
    Moeba + smoke(save) + pdef(cons) + war cry(swift) + impact(cons) + snipe(smite) + smash(cons)
    Here it is used as a filler just like reflex or quick aura but much more safer.
    Just like how people dont really use quick aura for aspd people dont really use pdef for 100% heal chance its just an extra if you happen to get hit.
     
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    Alright, so the main idea is using it as a filler, with the plus point of guarding attack (if the timing is correct).
     

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