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Tried Alchemia Story 1hr... but

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by ToramRises, Jun 26, 2018.

  1. ToramRises

    ToramRises Well-Known Member

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    Since same Company Asobimo released the new game Alchemia Story, I tried it...

    1hr and deleted the game...

    It is just my personal opinion about Alchemia Story compare to Toram Online.
    No Offense!

    1. Battle system... real time base - Turn RPG
    - Feels like I'm just playing some card battle games(like Heartstone) but plus Visual battle Animation.
    - No need of control my finger skills... this is why I love Toram boss battle so much.

    2. Gacha(gamble) banner
    - They have 3☆ 4☆ weapon/armor drop Gacha... which I really hate. (Good thing Toram doesn't sell Gears from the Orb shop)
    - At least, if you do x11 pull, it guarantees one 4☆ item from some Gacha banner. (price 5000 gems to do that / 10000+@ gems = $79.99)


    These 2 things made me not to play this game...
    Back to Toram.


    If the Alchemia Story had Toram Battle system(I really don't mind if they copy&paste exactly 100% from Toram) with Toram Orb shop,
    I would really love to spend my money on Toram.

    Good things about Alchemia Story are Graphic and Voice Actors.

    I'm not a professional expert in mobile game development,
    So I'm just wondering, is it really hard to upgrade the mobile game graphic later once it created.
     
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    What I'm wondering is why we dont have voices in toram yet even though there is an option for it when you click "change appearence". I also cant stand the battle system either.
     
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  3. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    I don't see how the gacha thing is a problem.
    You can get 4* gear without spending a single cent.
    I didn't and I'm loaded with 4* weapons.
    Plus you can craft 4* in game as well.

    Also, while the battle system is meh...
    The game does toss away with some of torams annoying features like proration, luck based blacksmith, constant search for a party...
    Most mobs and bosses are shared, so there's no dumb "lfm all finale" bs here.

    Also game doesn't have a skill point system, you you don't have to worry about waiting stat or skill points.

    All in all, if the game just had a better combat system, It be one of the best.
    Also, is prefer more like Avabel combat then Torams. Is more hack&slash style.
     
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  4. Tatsusa

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    Each one of their own.

    Since you're more lenient to Toram since all the hard work you put into it. Of course, you would go back to it. A lot of people don't go out of their comfort zones.

    The battle system is bit unique for some people taste, it's more strategic perspective with bit of prediction of the outcome of your next move.

    Gacha system for equipments is more than one 4 stars equipment if you haven't check the percentages on the banner. The average for each banner for four to six 4 stars out of x11 rolls, if you haven't try to roll yet. You have to work for your gems the more you effort you put in, the game is more F2P than you think it is. I gather 11,000 gems in matter of 2 days from doing the main quest and sub quests. They're not forcing you to buy any gems in order to get better, it is your accord if you want purchase it.

    When the game is build from the ground up as it is the set of base of the foundation. It's like saying putting new graphic card into an old computer system when it cannot handle the capacity for what it is build for. If you want Toram's graphics to matched Alchemia's graphics, they literally have to build from scratch again because every game have different graphic engine.
     
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  5. ToramRises

    ToramRises Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how asobimo is planning new features but I used to see a lot of games which have 3/4stars item, release next tier such as 5-7stars or SSR something like that with real money gacha shop. Most of them brought an issue with heavy p2w debates at the end.
    Toram is my 1st game from asobimo comp. So, i dont know how they manage the real money shop(orb sop) balance.

    Battle, stat / skill pt system is just my bias. I still like the toram style XD.
     
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    Warlord Waffle Well-Known Member

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    My opinions about Alchemia combat system although I stopped playing in the tutorial :
    Your enemy let you charge the bar to OVER 9000 and decide to do nothing, they have time to create idle animation yet they make the combat turn-based, the enemy sucks at combat, charge should take a turn, you don't know how to parry an atk, the combat screen is just you, your enemy and the background yet my phone hot enough to boil water









    Will add later
     
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  7. Tatsusa

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    Are you talking about the chain buff system?
     
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    Battle system is crap in alchemia story.
    Otherwise everything else is good.
    Asobimo added so many good features elsewhere that they had to degrade the battle system. Lol:p
    I was a beta tester.:D
     
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    Yes it too op and is a waste of time
     
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    It can be, it's between who you makes the first move to attack which always going to be the player. They sit there and take it. If you don't do the buffiest chain, just simply attack with chain 1 or 2 or not need for chain buffs. But buffs do matter in the game makes a huge difference in long, tough fights.
     
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    Most boring tactic ever
     
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  12. Asatu

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    Better than spamming finale
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    Joking, never tried alchemia.
     
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  13. Tatsusa

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    Yeah, but you're limited what you can do it sometimes. The max class level is 50. You got to make up what you have. The best skills are from different classes like 1 or 2 skills per class.
     
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    Lol....anyone who thinks Alchemia is to easy...hasn't crossed the paths if the really bosses there. x3
    The current event has field mobs with each 160k hp and a boss with over 2 mill hp.

    Plus the combat is more tactical then it first seems, unlike Toram, buffs are WAY more important and if you wanna crit, you gotta hit at the right time.
    Also in Alchemia it's not just one OP skill above others like finale and such.
    Low tier element attacks can out dmg higher tier skills at certain enemies, so you'll be changing skills a lot.
     
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    I tried an hour too, then another, and another, and another...
    You can earn a lot of “orb” (philosophy stone) from quests, I’ve done at least 5 free draw 11 now. Since yesterday there’s a campaign that 4 star weapon draw rate is 50%, armor 30%+...
     
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    I think alchemia it's really better than toram. I was at 53lvl at toram but I changed to AS because of the graphics, the systems configurations and the YOME possibilities. I agree with you point of view about batle mode but it's still funny because looks like pkm.
    I'm looking for a AS forum. And I really wanna know how to dye equipments. Someone can help?
     
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    been playing it for about two weeks now and i think AS is just a runaway from toram, imo toram is much more mmorpg than AS but it has its own uniqueness, its almost similar to logress if you guys ever played it, the battle system, limit breaks, the gacha. but since i have been completing the chapter and almost all the sub quest, i kinda lost it cuz everything i can do is just grinding my level, barely can do anything except that. toram have a huge things to do such as, when you are bored of grinding and farming, you can try to become a pacifist, earning money from statting or refining equipments. the chat system is more flexible, the guild system which has a big capacity, the skill system that you can experiment etc etc. the best one is it has big active community

    AS still need a lot of time..
     
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    Tried AS for around 3hr...
    This is not mmorpg, more like rpg which you can fight along with other player. Its not comparable to toram bcs they have different gameplay (turn based and hack n slash).
    Its fun for ppl who like old style rpg like chrono trigger.
     
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    The only thing i like in alchemia...is the fishing.....
    Its remind me of harvest moon whahahh
     
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    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Alchemia > Toram.
    Change my mind.
     

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