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The Archer or Gunner fusion build. (Lvl85 cap)*not updating

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by Toramwasmyidea, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    Ay thanx means alot to me thanx.to answer your questions:
    1. STR adds atk and hidden critdamge growth to bows, it doesn't add atk to bowguns an I'm unsure about Critdamge.
    Bowgun users will benefit from CRIT stat as it raises the crit rate and crit damage, BOWS on the other hand always seem to Critical SNIPE so crit rate is not a problem unlike with bowguns who need the extra crit rate since there rate has been nerfed(-30% I think)

    2. Sneak at lvl10 takes away 800 agro, and yes it can cover the agro of a full SNIPE COMBO. Check my very 1st combo- If I'm in a party I can spam without pausing-because my aggro produced is less then the agrro I remove with sneak.
    There is another reason why I use sneak in my combos- it is a non physical skill so it does not reduce snipes damage output of placed before it in a combo.
     
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  2. DansAway

    DansAway Well-Known Member

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    now that u said it,
    snipe using bow is always critical indeed (currently using gear bow courtesy of u n PhongTom lol).
    man, so bow user never have to care about adding more crit? that iz awezome!
    so, what do u think about crit up from battle skills? does bow user need it?
    shoot man playing archer is a blast, all 5 status effect inflicted in one combo holymom

    thanks again for ur guide n input google
     
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  3. Giffy

    Giffy Well-Known Member

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    Does sneak activate even if you don't have aggro?
     
  4. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    hahah yeah it is a blast definitely compared to just a plain old impact gunner lol.
    an gear bow is really great yes, even with -50% crit it still always crit SNIPE ( I'm having thoughts that perhaps bows have 100% crit rate with SNIPE or Dex has something to do with its high rate)
    CRIT UP skill is worth getting for future skills, and it does add crit + crit damage I think.
    glad you a converted Archer ;)
     
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  5. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    I'm not 100% sure , but my sneak combos always activate. perhaps if there is a tank in your party using provoke or rage sword . I need to test this.
    thank you for bringing it up tho
     
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  6. Giffy

    Giffy Well-Known Member

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    Thanks @Googlewasmyidea ! Please do let us know since i've seen some before that mentioned sneak not activating when you don't have aggro.
     
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    btw google,
    what if I activate impact from afar, will it still help proration even if it didn't hit?
     
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  8. Giffy

    Giffy Well-Known Member

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    Answering in behalf of @Googlewasmyidea No it won't since it didn't hit at all.
     
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  9. Voussoir

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  10. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    Yes its a hybrid user; i prefer being a archer tho. Let me kow if yu have any questions
     
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    @Googlewasmyidea
    Hi bro, can you help me to test whether sonic wave is worth enough to replace moeba as combo opener.
    Because i think moeba shines if we fight on big area and less useful when we forced to fight in small area.

    Im just not sure if sonic wave's tumble rate is good enough without using knuckles. Please do some tests bro
     
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  13. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    Hey sure man I'll help with tests ;my info I have so far
    - I have sonic wave lvl 5 atm
    -chances of tumble without knuckles is prob like 4/10. It really a hit or miss thing. Not recommended if Ur solo or targeted by boss. Moeba atleast almost always slows. If your gona be a agro dealer than best to use BG +knuckles cos it hits like 9/10 tumble.
    Another thing with SONIC u gona need a fast COMBO to take advantage of it really.
    Bt we can run some tests if not busy. PM me when u have time.:)
     
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  14. Giffy

    Giffy Well-Known Member

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    CMIIW sonic wave without knucks equipped has 50% proc rate? I guess if you like to use sonic wave in your combo, then it would be best to use Xbow instead of bow so you can equip knucks as a sub.
     
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  15. Voussoir

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    @Googlewasmyidea what is kung pow skill tree? I cant see it in library section skills.
     
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  16. Giffy

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    That's Martial Skill Tree or Knucks.
     
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  17. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    Lol sorry about that ill change itXD
     
  18. Keliori

    Keliori Well-Known Member

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    By "fast combo" did you mean a short combo?
    And yes I'm trying to make combo for SOLO run with bowgun as main weapon but not sure about sub-weapon.
    I have tested bowgun/knuckle and bowgun/knife. Currently testing bowgun/shield, being on halt due to maintenance.
     
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    Yes, that's my plan. But need to be sure if sonic wave tumble rate is as good as power shot with bow.
    Does skill level affect tumble rate? Many people say it does
     
  20. Giffy

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    If you will be using Xbox/Knucks then it would be best to go with Sonic Wave. For the skill level, that i'm not sure of but I guess it does.
     
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