How to not waste your spina☆

This guide is really just a common sense tip.

That being said however, I really believe it will help so many of you.

Ok, so you guys may or may not know the experience quests/farming spots/spina farms, by now. (Pin a few things in the comments for them someone? Am on phone and typing is ughh.)
If not, go check those guides, then come back. I assume most of you have some info while reading this.

So> nissel wood?
Sells for 1000 spina. Four stacks can go for 5000 spina usually.
Easily farmed, Guarenteed levels, though it gets slower at upper, around 1% exp only, after level 75.

Bitter buts> Bnuts
Sells for roughly 3k.
4 Stack goes from 12-15k.
Fairly easy to farm, while u farm for nissel.
Tops off around 2% Ish i think. only got 2%per after lvl 70- something.

Magic marionette hearts> MMH
20k-30k for a stack.
100-120k for 4 stacks.
Not easily farmed, time consuming.
around 75 i think its giving 9% or less per quest. not sure about 90->


Im bad at it, but lets try some math.
1 nissel> 1k
1 bnut> 3k
1 mmh> 25k
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nissel 1%
bnut 2 %
mmh 9 %

$$$$$$$#$

for the price of 1 bnut, u get 3 nissel. giving you far more than 1 bnut could, experience wise. 1 bnut has maybe 2 and a half quests in it. so lets say 4% from your bnut. The nissel for the same price, will be giving you 3 quests per stack. So 3x1 x3 = 9%. :OOOOOO

For MMH, you get 2 quests per, so.... 18% ish? but, you would get 25 nissel wood for the price of one mmh... so- 3x1= 3 x25 = 75. add some 0's and youll have 75%. (i think. im bad at math lol.)

I think you see the point though? Its a bit faster to pay for the good stuff, but for those of you who cant always afford it, well its ok to take the cheap way sometimes. It can save/make you spina and all it'll cost is your time.

((Disclaimer!! MY MATH MAY BE WRONG. feel free to correct it in the comments, but do refrain from droning on. I hope it helps guys ♡♡

- if theres another thread on this topic sry -

 

Agree with you.By the way thanx for explanation. Hope others will understand .

 

*tapping nisel quest*
*skip*
*tapping*
*skip*

 

I don't understand

 

Basically
1stk of Mmh is 30K, xp is 172K
30stk of N.wood is 30K, xp is 972K
So buying N.wood is better than buying mmh,
mmh is faster to turn in but expensive
n.wood takes longer to turn in but cheaper

 

There were many quest vs quest threads in the past. Idk, all of them said that Nisel Wood is better

 

It's the leveling chart by @Synonym, including Nisel wood, Bitter Nut, Mmh and Huge Iron Ball.
http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/easy-quest-leveling-chart-updated-lv-100-cap-o-o.8611/

 

im so confused !?

 

Oh look, another thread on this. No offense to the OP, but this has been explained many times. Hell, it's been proved that Mint Gumi stacks are slightly more effective in bulk then MMH. Why don't people do that then? Simple, people have toothpicks for fingers and are too lazy to get the stuff that's more effective and would rather waste time getting the not effective stuff to not make their ever so precious and delicate fingers not chip a nail -.-

 

Good guide. This was sum'd up by our own @Zenki the other day. He said along the lines of that if you're buying farming mats, the way to go is MMH if you want fast and to the point. If you're farming it, nisel wood and bnuts is the way to go, or if you don't have like 5m spina on you at all times. There's no shame in buying a million stacks in nisel and saving 2-3m for 100 levels. :3
Zenki im so sorry if this wasnt you but i think it was. xD

 

Just a common sense tip, check the consignment board first before buying. Market price are usually around 75% of the lowest consignment board price.

I've seen people now shout selling King Potum xtal for 100k when its just 50k on consignment. Some people also sell killer coat apps for 10k when there are already 4k below coats on consignment.

 

It is a strategy at times. I put Pillar Golem on C.B. for 2.2m but shout it for 2.3m so the ppl go to the board to do price-check and buy my xtal thinking they're bargaining it lol.

 

tl;dr mmh is better

Disregarding the fact that there have in fact been multiple threads on nisel/bnut/MMH and have caused heated discussions, sure nisel gives you more exp but at what cost? Synonym made a thread about levelling and the exp/mats:

big wall of text

Spoiler

http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/easy-quest-leveling-chart-updated-lv-100-cap-o-o.8611/ and it shows that by using nwood, sure you get the most value out of your spina, but you have to spend close to 5 hours just tapping on a screen repetitively. And not only that probably even longer because the bag cap is 50, so with the 1047 stacks needed you'll need to farm or buy stacks of nisel wood 20 times assuming you're filling your bag each time. And going from nisel mount > sofya 20 times will take a while too, but let's assume they are bought. Youll have to find a new buyer to fill your bag every time your bag is full, 20 times.
While you can find 100 stacks of MMH a lot faster. So after about 5 hours of tapping and clicking, and if you're farming them raise that to about 10 hours+, you'll have saved 1.4m, compared to the person using MMH. Now let's assume the MMH user is farming yelb. Within 5 hours, they could've beaten Yelb hundreds of times and gotten an xtal. Maybe more, they probably got an armor and a weapon dye as well. Maybe multiples. And throughout all this the Yelb runs are giving them exp. So altogether they probably earned more than you did in the 5 hours you were tapping quests, while they were defeating bosses, despite the cost of the MMH.

 

The thread was updated. The difference is now around 2.2m. And the total turn in time from nisel is raised to 8 hours.

Spoiler

With that said you'll also have to consider the amount of time you need to reach the 2.2m difference in price. Unless you have an expensive item ready to sell (who does, all the time?) then it will still take you hours to get that much spina while the nisel buyer is already buying his stacks and turning them in. Synonym also put the mmh stack at 18k whereas now it's not easy to find sellers who sell for 20k. Most try to sell theirs for 25k. So the difference between their prices will again rise. Let's say that you are correct and the difference is 5 hours (buying) for total turn ins; i can say that i've done boss runs without getting a xtal, so we can't really rely on that to make up for the 2.2+m difference. Unless you can make 2.2m in 5-8 hours without relying on an expensive service or item, then the difference really isn't that big. Besides, i turn in quests without needing to pay much attention to the game. I can do that while doing something else. I can't do that in boss runs.

Personally i used to farm mmh and sell them. I rely on xtals and services for spina to buy bnuts and nisel. Sometimes i go mmh when i have extra spina.

*grabs popcorn*

 

uhmm... in my experience consignment board price is always higher than those who are shouting... i think its because of the tax thing...

 

I believe the consignment board prices can be lower or the same as the ones who are shouting. They just get bought out really quickly and possibly resold at a higher price (which only the ones who really are in a rush buy).