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ATK%/CDMG%/STR%?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by lexialeaf, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. lexialeaf

    lexialeaf Member

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    Hello Guys , im new here xD
    I need ur suggestion about Elemental Weapon
    This is Staff-FU Build
    I choose Fire element for example
    a. Fire,Damage to Earth +10%, ATK7%
    b. Fire,Damage to Earth +10%, STR7%
    c. Fire,Damage to Earth +10%, CDMG7%
    Which one better guys ?
    Thanks ~
     
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    Impact Well-Known Member

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    C
     
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    I vote C

    This is the reason. Fyi I just copied prec explanation in an old thread. I think this is somehow related.

    @lexialeaf
    "I just compared STR+7% vs. C.DMG+7%.
    C.DMG+7% won with a full STR (255) build. Giving exactly Critical Damage +14.07, which summed to a full STR's base C.DMG gives a total of 215%.

    Example:
    Astute (STR 255) = 15k, white hit.
    Astute (STR 255, STR+7%) = 30,547.5 (rounds up to 30,548) yellow hit.
    Astute (STR 255, C.DMG+7%) = 32,250 yellow hit.

    Conclusion: ATK+7%/C.DMG+7% is better than ATK+7%/STR+7% even for builds with STR 255."

    Now for C.DMG +10 vs. C.DMG +7%, 7% is better even for non STR builds being a flat 10.5, so for a full STR build it translates to a flat 14.07, excluding your Critical UP stat from the multiplier, including it the result is 14.42 vs a flat 10, we can conclude C.DMG +7% is much better.

    For STR 7% vs ATK 7% we do this:
    7% of STR 255 is STR 17.85 .. STR 17.85 x 3 (which is the ATK gained per STR pt on 2H) is 53.55, we round it to ATK +54.
    For the ATK %: Your total STR is 255. 255 x 3 (which is the ATK gained per STR pt on 2H) is 765. Base ATK is 765, and the 7% of it is 53.55 but Sword Mastery, Attack UP and the natural ATK gain as character's level goes up add to your Base ATK stat so in the end ATK +7% increases more ATK than STR +7% but leaves you with 3.5~ points less in your Critical Damage multiplier.

    This is the link to his post.
    http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/a7-cd7-cd10-vs-str7-cd7-cd10-for-2h.15266/
     
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  4. lexialeaf

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    Ty guys
     
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    i vote A.
    i had 2 staffs
    Light, 10% to dark, Cdmg7%
    and same setup with ATK7%
    i deal more damage with ATK7%..

    Its simple. because you dont crit that much as a staff fu unless u rely on spamming triple kick.
     
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    Impact Well-Known Member

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    U want best dmg? Go element armour. Element weapon. Atk7% or cdmg7% don't matter. U are literally doing 40% more dmg anyway to someone who don't use element. Lol
     
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    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    thats true.. elementalist in arm and weapon are the only way to abuse elemental weakness
     
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  8. lexialeaf

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    Yeah , but its so need many space to bag i guess
    I need the simple way :D
     
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    Simple way is go what Rex offer u. I'm not a staff blaster. Lol. I'm a 2h...
     
  10. lexialeaf

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    So better use a7%str7%cd7% on neutral weapon right?
     
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    Yes
     
  12. Itachi3

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    i vote B haha 7% str if you are full str 7% of 255=17.5 ,each str=4 atk 4.17=68atk,each 5 str =1% cdmg extra, 17.5= 3% cdmg extra ,result
    7%str=68atk(it is about 5% from your attack or more i think)+3%cdmg
     
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    Str only gains 3atk per meaning with max Str stat you'll gain +51 atk
     
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    yup its 90ish% gamble rate
     
  15. Rimurudesu

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    Most likely
    A) attack % for elemental ~

    Or else go with
    C) critical dmg % + elemental
    Full critical damage build with Dragon ears

    It's just my opinion

    In end it all depends on playstyle XD everyone here is right in there own way coz there stats are according to personal combos , playstyle and skill build
     
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