Are 100k+ snipes possible on ECB?

True lol and yeah eva state comes into play when its at around 1/4 hp which is annoying

 

Got it from jap wiki, the japanese tended to be more accurate on stuff requiring formulas
They have been accurate on other info, and some of the info we have in this forum by various members were referenced from there as well. for example the refining rates chart

You should note that i verified the claims myself in solo too, not just taking wholesale

edit: link https://www.dopr.net/toramonline-wiki/runahenteyama

 

i had spent some time trying on yelb, magic above 3% of his max hp does trigger the def state

 

Yes mr.ben but i am not talking about the 100% guard rate boost stage
If you have noticed at yelb your 1st storm tick would do like 18k+ and then afterwards it would become 6k same thing happens with this boss
I want to figure out how to do that high dmg like the first hit again in the same battle, it could be useful for gem runs

 

Sorry, my bad forgot abt the cap. 95% is from simply applying the formula.
yes, Staff max is 90

 

Yes, it's working as you described. I suppose they might have changed it from last time? i'm not sure since you had been playing much longer den me.
i think i checked about 3 weeks ago

 

Yea i agree but abou tstability that maybe not, it more about guard then

 

I got a 120k snipe with my bg. If I remember the ecb was at least half health left.
I'd really don't know about Stability on my bg at this point. that was the only time I manage to hit 100k+ on him.
I prorated quite a while to get this damage. I tried it after and it it was to no avail T-T

 

Sorry for the late reply, had to sleep and work.
Yes, there was no guard on the 2nd hit, which is interesting, cos the guard was supposed to be 100%.
Hence I went to watch other youtube play back of snipers on ECB, apparently dat happens quite frequently; that snipes may not be guarded, especially on bows... (with guard breaks)
In any case, yup, the 100k was out of the norm, however it is not limited to the begining of the battle as highlighted by other members
It is the 2nd take which i had also highlighted in from earlier post, i had previously tried to test the damage variation but gave up subsequently, as it was simply too wide and doesn't match with damage calculations. if u do the maths, a 100k+ snipe is simply not possible on a bow.
With existing known formulas, a bow with 1150 atk (assumed), 60crit dmg, 35% element, snipe and max prorate (2.5x), the max damage is only 69k (before factoring in boss def).
Something extra would be needed, we must still keep in mind that we currently do not know exactly how def works. And this only happens for snipe, i've been playing mage since i started the game, and i've not noticed the same thing happen, so u can take SirEgg's case out of the equation. it is not related.

 

likely not due to proration, u reach his max proration in abt 5~6 hits, ur combo actually sets it back by 4 times, which is actually only equals to 1~2x proration. if you want to see the proration effect, use a 4mp smited snipe instead.

 

I would rather not be dependent on other peoples formula how can you say that 69k is the maximum dmg when clearly so many people have already done 100k+ snipes with bows unless you show the actual formula i cant believe in that max dmg

 

Was that the first snipe that you used in that specific battle?
Were you just prorating before that?

 

btw those aren't my formulas, the "other people's formula" are the general accepted conceus by the community on how things work in game, and can be freely found in this forum or online. you are in one sweep rejecting the work of the community in figuring things out with your comment.

It's pointless arguing this with you. It's really a choice of what u want to accept (more den 90% of what we hear in life will always from 3rd party; they will not be facts in the purest sense, but rather a case of what we choose to accept). I had also repeatedly stated that something else doesn't match up and that i am not sure. At current, u just seem selective in choosing what you want to hear and totally not bringing up the other points that show otherwise.

I wont be doing the formulas again (too lazy), if u want, you go and calculate how to get 100k and throw it in my face. Use the simulator on Coryn Club website to derive base atk (plus standard equipment), den multiply crit, element, proration and skill multiplier.
I repeat (as i had said in previous posts), i am not discounting the possibility, but something else is still missing that we do not know.

 

For me actual observation is more important than typing numbers on a calculator i saw people doing 100k+ on a bow so thats why its possible for me, neither you nor me is gonna benifit from trying to guess a formula for a game its just a shear waste of time in fact.
If you want i can tag at least 5 people that have done 100k+ snipes.
Sorry if my comment was a bit harsh, but playing the game and experiencing stuff is more fun than trying to figure out which independent variable is used in a equation.
So i guess its better if we drop this arguement here since none of us is trying to accept the other persons conclusion ^^

 

Quit the 100k snipe thing, go read all my posts again. i stated that it was out of the norm and could not be explained. All i had done was to provide possibilities on why the damage could have dropped since that was what was asked. and even then i did not say it must have happened that way. i listed them as possibilities and personal take. When evidence showed otherwise, i simply concurred. you realise you had never concurred on things that showed otherwise?

I do agree on dropping the argument though

 

I dont get which evidence are you talking about and for which topic @.@ that stated otherwise which i failed to concur, if the evidence was proper i would definitely concur to it.

 

Nope that wasn't the first snipe.
Yep I was prorating for a bit before doing my combo