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Tank: 1H Sword + Shield (LVL 150 cap)

Discussion in '1-Hand' started by athena__, Jul 17, 2016.

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Is this tank good?

Poll closed Dec 15, 2017.
  1. Yes

    66.0%
  2. Its ok

    30.7%
  3. Nah

    3.3%
  1. bows

    bows Active Member

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    Sir athena this is my equip :
    Accordian fold(pg)
    Marble shield
    Sweet basket(gryle)
    Arm vit 7 max hp 7 agrro 10 (arcoiris)
    Aromatic bangle stone mercenery

    That my equip. What do you think?
     
  2. athena__

    athena__ Well-Known Member

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    I've never been called a sir before o_O

    Most of it looks good. I guess the only thing about using sweet basket is that it has -3 motion speed. I haven't used it personally but I was told motion speed does affect the speed for casting guardian. Guardian is the slowest skill you will use at the moment. If you plan on using that skill you might be better off with brigan helm it has no negative stats, adds resistance, and same amount of aggro.

    The other is aromatic bangle. You would be better off using knights talisman for more mp. I know aromatic bangle has 5% more aggro but you cant really use hp and mp regeneration in battle. It doesn't activate unless you aren't in battle. Hope this helps.
     
  3. bows

    bows Active Member

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    Uppss sorry i say you sir. ;)
    Im not think to use guardian often. Cause i dont know how good guardian skill thats why i use sweet basket.

    Yeah i use aromatic cause sweet basket can cover mp, and im too lazy to cast so went some one cast mp i can regenerate my mp with out cast.
    But thank for you answer . Its make me know the weakness of my equip. ^^
     
  4. Kingdom2

    Kingdom2 Active Member

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    Thx Athena for sharing your master piece
     
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  5. athena__

    athena__ Well-Known Member

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    The regeneration will still only help when not in battle. Mp shouldn't be a problem once you max quick draw and sober analysis. Along with the mp recovery +6 from sword and shield you should be able to keep up your mp with no problem. I rarely have to charge more then once after a battle unless I had to revive a teammate.
     
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    athena__ Well-Known Member

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    Glad to help ^^
     
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    bows Active Member

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    So i must change too my bask too briggan helm, fir tye bertter tank?
     
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    athena__ Well-Known Member

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    It's up to you. You don't have to change but it's just my recommendation.
     
  9. bows

    bows Active Member

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    Owh yhanks arcata. Arcata i have problem sometime someone take agroo? What the best move i do?
    Sorry bad english xD
     
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    athena__ Well-Known Member

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    To gain aggro back I just use provoke to get it back quickly and then use combo a couple of times. That should help
     
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    Owwh i see, thanks for helping.
     
  12. _Smiling_Killer_

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    Athena...
    Is the difference between lvl 1 guardian to lvl 10 guardian huge in terms of aggro?...
    Cause i dont know anymore...others keep stealing aggro from me still...is it because i have lvl 1 guardian?
    + im using sanctuary so why am i still out aggroed by others? -_- though sword fu's i can out aggro them in 1 combo...btw here is my combo...
    Main/spam: astute>ragesword(save)>hardhit(swift)>shieldbash(swift)>t.slash(cons)
    I dunno if its a 1 mp combo but you can try for ur selves :v...t.slash works efficeintly for mp recovery as it makes 3 normal attacks=1mp bar...
    My second combo...(for high aggro keep)
    Hardhit>guardian(save)>t.slash(swift)>sanctuary(save)>ragesword(swift)>astute(cons)>shieldbash(cons)...
    It not quite a long because of t.slash having +1 motion speed up so it makes sanc an insta cast and hard hit makes the time to cast guardian
     
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    athena__ Well-Known Member

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    Ok first can you tell me how much aggro % you have? The more you have the easier it is to hold aggro.

    As for guardian I think it got nerfed since the orginal release. There is a big difference between lvl 1 and lvl 10 aggro wise so you will need to increase this. I recently tried this and lost aggro with only lvl 1. Also I wouldn't rely on sanctuary to keep aggro especially from spammers. It doesn't produce enough aggro. Unfortunately I can't try both combos. I don't use sanctuary because I found using both guardian and sanctuary in 1 combo takes too long resulting in loss of aggro or getting hit by attacks because you can't interrupt a lot of bosses all the time.
     
  14. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    First of all u need to have a perfectly stable net connection i have experienced many times even if i have 100% aggro lvl10 guardian i will lose aggro if net no good.

    Moving on to your question i did a small test of aggro
    Me lvl10 guardian no sanctuary 18% aggro from gears
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    My friend lvl1 guardian with sanctuary 97% aggro from gears
    We both spammed our respective combos 4skills long at big mask
    After 2 spams i stole the aggro and he couldnt recover it even if i stopped spamming for a bit to recover mp

    Guardians every single effect gets better by lvling it, it is highly recommended to lvl it to max:-
    Per lvl:-
    Range increases
    Duration increases
    Dmg reduction on pt members increases
    Guard rate increases
    Aggro increases
    Atk reduction on caster when pt member steps on aura decreases
    I am almost on the verge of completing the entire data for this skill
    By this point i honestly dont know why a pure tank should keep guardian below lvl10

    P.S. Your 2nd combo doesnt seem to be 1mp it will become 3mp if both astute and shield bash at the end are not swift
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Did we just reply at the same exact moment, been happening a lot recently hoho
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Dnt worry about agro gears just max guardian, my tank has none but i can still hold it and heal if i need to
     
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    athena__ Well-Known Member

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    You can't always rely on just guardian
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    I know^^ and i dnt, i tried before and when pulling multiple minibosses its better to voke than combo, but up till now i can hold so its all good
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Dunno if to call it a nerf or a bug (asobimo called it as a bug)
    But the infamous aggro lock given by guardian is no longer possible after that update.
    Now if the pt members have faster combo they can steal aggro from a guardian user.
    Tbh now that i look at it, it indeed seemed like a bug, a skill that could make it possible to steal aggro and keep it at infinite no matter how much pt spammed seemed too good to be true it would completely remove the necessity of aggro% stat for a shield user
    So i guess pure tanks should at least get 20-30% aggro if not full aggro stats to balance tanking well
     
  20. athena__

    athena__ Well-Known Member

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    I think so lol.
     

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