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It is possible to get 10k dmg x 12 phantom slash with Dex as (not full) main stat?

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by RikuoWSC, Jul 25, 2017.

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    Owh I'm not here to duel jst wanted to knw ur stat distribution since i saw u say dex as main stat is important for dual so I'm a bit curious on ur skill dmg like Pslash, twinS, Cslash and etc...
    Sry if I'm bothering u tho
     
  6. Lynxia

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    With a mostly Dex dual Build, Its going to be lower then some of the other stat builds, but the damage out put would be more stable on high dodge bosses.
     
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    oh! I use 1:1:1 Str:Dex:Agi
    My Phantom Damage is 12k

    My bild has better stability and less graze than full str agi, but my max damage of course lower than full str build
     
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    Ah I c hmm that weird some1 already test that but didn't reach ur phantom 12k dmg tho. Btw, Is ur weapon refine to C+ only ? The reason I wanted to stay at C+ is because I can't afford refine +B and above. I'm still noob plus unlucky when boss farm too
     
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    Its cuase of the combo i was using at the time. Btw these videos are very old. I was testing out different builds at that time to see which one i wanted to choose. Heres the comparisons.



     
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    Iirc, when I tested 150 Dex/100 str/Rest agi (cap 130), I hit 12-13k phantom max. But it needs compensation of stability via gear since low str (str gives stability). It's not a big sacrifice, but still didnt feel worth it when my grazes to most bosses on full str/agi are 10-12k, and I max damage out around 18k currently.

    +C gear should be fine for hitting 10k+ phantom, tho. I used +C swords when I tested the build. Just wait until you're a higher level. The damage will definitely come.
     
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    Hey dex gives more stab on 1h than str,
    3 str = 1 dex in comparisson to the amount of stability they give per point.
     
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    Oh? Never read that one when researching o3o We learn something new everyday o3o

    Welp, I still deal out more dps on full str, even when I graze. I'd literally have to graze every hit in order to lose dps vs dex build.
     
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    Hmm only explanation i can say is that's because graze is related to your lowest stab. Most 1h have a very high stability to begin with which is 80 on most swords , and with 255 str you can get 6.375 extra stab which gives you a total stab of 86.375 and +51 cdmg, now in comparisson to dex , most dex oriented 1h chars would mostly or almost cap their stab because 255 dex = 19.125 stab which gives them 99.125 stab.
    Now if we compare these two then it'll become :
    99.125 stab w/ 1.5x cdmg vs 86.375 stab / 2.01 cdmg.
    If for example you dealt a 1k non crit dmg then lowest graze on it after it crit would be:
    Dex : 1,486
    Str : 1,736
     
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    Oh nice thanks for this explanation bro *^*
     
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    what stats of weapon and armor u use?
     
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    Rn I'm using 2nd anniversary swrd V +C
    stat : atck7%cdcrtcrt%
    Armor is Full crit armor +13 cerabes jade
    Add chg depend on boss grecia mask/ Fp 1.5k hp ver/cat tail
    Ring moxiz
    Jst that for now
    Currently testing again with 3:2:1 str:agi:dex
    Hghest phantom on boss 8.8k
    Twin 45k
    Cslash around 50k(mostly tested on ms)
    (Edit: SUB weapon 2nd anniversary swrd V +D)
     
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    whats you main combo you use often? Knowing the combo you using will help a little more, cuase combo setup also impacts your dmg ouput.
     
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    Nice. For your 2nd combo(the one in the middle) if you are able, to try using warcry as a save skill (so that you can get extra damage for war cry affects, and the combo as a whole would cost less mp). Then remove Reflect and put Flash blast there instead. Replace impact with spinning slash for more proation in skills Dmg. This is a suggestion. So Try it out and see if you notice any change in your damage output If not just keep you original combo dont you dont like it :)
     
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    use spin instead of reflex.. extra proration
     

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