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Cant Get to +B. Getting irritated XD

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by RHDTWRP, Oct 31, 2017.

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  1. Toxxxy

    Toxxxy Well-Known Member

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    Didn’t think getting to +B was so hard <_<
    Makes me just wanna switch my refiner to a blacksmith char
    Sounds expensive to be a refiner <_<
    And with me being super poor most of the time that’s not a good thing :biblethump:
     
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  2. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Really? ... For me craftsman bs gave me nothing but losses :biblethump:
    I earned way more by actually refining and statting... These days recipe mats are always more expensive than what you can get as profit by crafting them
     
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    Toxxxy Well-Known Member

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    Might just stop refining and be a statter might be easier
     
  4. Barzeft

    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    Yep though it's been a while since I tried it so might have been Risk 9 instead of Risk 8 just remember it's higher success than Risk 10 with HPO+Hyper Refinement Powder with 255 Tec.

    Requires more farming and depends on the stats you do. Even gamble stats with 99% success rate have a chance to fail multiple times
     
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  5. UfuLamb

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    Idk how they do it but assholebimo's RNG has been weird in their numbers unless its a 100% or cash shop items.... Them 90%+ stats failing a lot.... And back then in iruna i failed more 75% extract xtals than success ones.... And on avabel them evolving weapons is kinda well disappointing on the success department
     
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    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    Yeah the rng system is rather screwy so like you said unless it was bought with real $ or is 100% success be prepared for it to fail
     
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    yea. sucks i just wasted 8m for an armigma 2slot 50 def 42 pots. to create c7c141414 and if fucked me uip. 98 success rate. and still failed.
    pure tech with second stat of dex. cap140
     
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    Just getting an armigma for 8m ish alweady awesome as it is.....
     
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    On this note, is the rule of thumb as follows?
    0-B Ori+Anti - Tec Refiner
    A-S Her+Anti - Luk Refiner
     
  10. PauPauPau

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    but luk doesn't use anti as the luk stat only has 1% success rate but gives a high chance not to degrade when failing.
     
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    I think it's more like:
    Anti-degrade gives 75% of not degrading
    Max luck gives ~24% of not degrading​

    You need the anti-degrade to keep the chance of failure minimal, and it's cheaper than 6% chance Hp O with a 25% chance of failure with Anti-degrades.
     
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    Thanks for all the info. Thread torned out better then expected lol.
    Well finally made it to +B and first try for +A was succesful :eek:
    Scared to try +S and end up dropping to +B and cant get to +A that quick again.
    So now time for sub sword. Wish me luk:p
     
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  13. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Its safer to use anti deg coz mainly withm anti both success rate and degrade rate will be 1% for NS gears without anti deg it would be 3% and trust me 3% has a chance to occur LOT MORE OFTEN than 1%.
    Another reason as to why people dont accept +A for 1s gears. With 1% on both degrade and success it is just a coin flip now to see which one strikes first.
    Right now what I am trying to find out is if the refinement powders are better to use than anti deg for +A refine (It is prolly not coz then people would have already been using it)
     
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    Ns failing with degrade on +A/S = depression
    1s failing with degrade on +A/S = devastation
    :notlikethis::notlikethis::notlikethis:
     
  15. EmptyChat

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    awwwh i envy youu :( i havent succeed with my bow, still drop to D
    goodluck with your sub sword <3
     
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    i'm already tried refine NS item, just a few minutes a go.
    and yes, in my case i'ts more harder than slot item. i'm usually refine slot item 0 up to S (small proof in photo. Refine S 2 or 3 days a go. and yesterday just refining to A. and yes that's slot item.

    but for now, refining NS so damn difficult. after using 1 stk ori and An-Deg not going to B. only got D

    i dont know why ~.~
     

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    Don't wish
    Don't hope
    Don't believe in you rip hammer
    Don't focus on the refine
    You will feel more pressure if you keep failing
    Just enjoy pressing and hearing the clang clang clang clang cling
     
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    Thanx. Got to +A on both sword. And a HB.
    Feel like +A is so quick compared to +B.
    But i tell u this. I feel like once u break the +B barrier its ez'R to get to to +B if u drop down to +C. While doin HB i dropped down 4 times to +C and after like 4-7 tries i get back to +B. Then after 15 min i got +A on HB also. Now goin to try to get it to +S. Add a piercer and BKOD and try to sell. Already gave it a7ccc14(did stats b4 refining lol)
     
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    would u mind sharing how you refine? i mean did you spam refining ? or wait a couple seconds in between, or anything else ?
     
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    i dont know trick about this. but im never too fast or slow when refining, or use another item for "sacrifice". i mean use item A, refine until drop, then back to item B, etc, etc, etc
    here's what happen tonight.

    Good luck guys :D
     

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