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About physical pierce anda SRD (short range damage)

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Tallyho, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Tallyho

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    hi guys, I want to ask about physical pierce and SRD, how does physical pierce and SRD (short range damage) work? does they better than atk%? and if i use brawler DPS, what 2 xtall should i use on my weap? Imitator,PG,Tyrant, or/and Gracia? thankyou
     
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    physical pierce lowers the enemies DEF stat, so you can deal more damage.
    short range damage multiplies all damage from attacks activated at 7m and below. this does not affect indirect attacks like Spinning Slash, Magic Wall and the like.

    for a brawler, physical pierce is certainly better than atk%, since knuckles have the lowest atk of all weapons.
     
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    i see, so the best xtall for brawler weap are PG and imitator? bcz imi give anticipate 10% and 2 ampr. btw thanks for the reply
     
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    The usefulness of atk% is dependant on your knuc and its refine.
    If it is +A or +S I would suggest going for grecia + imitator instead as atk+% will give more output in that case.
     
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    right now im using 108 +S weap and the different atk between PG and grecia is 60 atk. is that big? but PG gives mp 300 and SRD 3%
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Yep 60 atk is more than 3% srd even more if you take the upcoming katana skill.
    But yeah if you prefer the extra mp and ampr from pg then go for it.
     
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    if you want to explain what katana skill that brawler can use?
     
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    It increases total atk by a large amount if you dont have any sub weapon equipped and you critical hit. Without sub weapon that would be +90atk instead of +60
     
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    does it apply to THS too?
     
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    Physical pierce dont lower enemies defense. % of your hit convert as a true damage to enemies ignoring their defense so you can deal more damage.
     
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    Uh, there's no pure/true damage mechanic in this game, only physical (from physical skills), magic (from magic skills) and neutral (from auto attacks).
    Also, he's technically right: Physical Pierce does lower the DEF of a mob by X% (during damage calc only however).
     
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    All mmo with physical pierce means penetrating damage through enemies def/armor. Its not lowering enemies armor/def bla bla bla. If thats the case, then my pierce also applicable to my pt, then explain
     
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    It's not a X% chance to completely ignore the enemy's DEF, as you clearly implied here:
    It's a 100% chance to ignore X% of the enemy's DEF. While his statement might not be 100% accurate, it is more on point than what you suggested (ignoring X% of the enemy's DEF is pretty much the same as lowering the enemy's DEF by X%), hence why I said "technically". This result not only has been tested by many, but proven by the most reliable source there is.
    Also, it's not hard to create a variable that only works for the user (for example, LUK and Drop Rate% books only work for the user and not the rest of the party). Physical Pierce works the same way.
     
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