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Baggy BowGun Tank (yep your right....just a TANK...just sharing toodles:)

Discussion in 'Bow Gun' started by Bago2, May 4, 2018.

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  1. Bago2

    Bago2 Well-Known Member

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    Bowgun Tank
    (agro+ampr+ailment+lil damage)
    (so dont expect humongous damage blah blah blah)
    been fascinated with tanks ever since ermmm....nvm! so i just want to share this with you guys.
    kudos to @Tino / @mayam /@athena__
    for lending a helping brain.
    STATS:
    Update Link~ Click scroll down :)
    LVL 165...255mtl>155vit>63dex
    Hp 19,657 / Mp 1,500+= lil empress garb(bossdrop)
    Update Link~ Click scroll down :)
    LVL 165...255mtl>182vit
    Hp 20,636 / Mp 1,500+= brig arm
    BLADE Skills: 20 skill points
    5 sword mastery
    5 quick slash
    9 warcry
    1 berserk... Newly Added

    Shot Skills: 46 skill points
    5 power shot
    5 moeba
    5 paralysis
    5 smoke dust

    1 arm break
    5 shot mastery
    5 long range

    10 quick draw ( down to 5 ) saved sp:)
    10 decoy


    SUPPORT Skills: 25 skill points
    5 mini heal
    10 recovery
    10 sanctuary

    SURVIVAL Skills: 15 skill points
    5 short rest
    10 mp boost


    SHIELD Skill: 55 skill points
    5 shield mastery (gonna max eventually) aspd purpose
    5 shield bash (gonna max eventually) higher stun chance
    1 shield cannon (optional)
    10 Protection
    10 Aegis
    10 Guardian
    5 Force shield
    10 Magical shield

    KNIGHT Skills: 20 skill points
    5 assault
    5 parry

    10 perfect defense

    HUNTER Skills: 20 skill points
    5 kick
    5 sunrise arrow

    10 magic arrow

    MONONOFU Skills: 6 skill points
    5 bushido
    1 shukuchi


    STAR GEMS Skills
    GUARD skills:

    10 heavy armor mastery
    BATTLE skills:
    10 def up
    HALBERD skills:
    10 quick aura
    HUNTER skills: (ailment sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 kick
    BRAWLER skills: (not sensitive boss for combo 3)
    10 smash
    10 sonic

    SUPPORT skills:
    10 mini heal
    10 first aid
    *can mix and match depends on what you need
    BOWGUN:
    Updated to Diver's Bowgun (+100crit) (ems+zega ll(4ampr)<changed to hero potum
    Crate15 / Crate15% / Agro+10% / Vit5% / -14 hp regen / -7 Dodge = (100% success statting)
    Crystals now> Aranea (Agro 1%+ Evil magic sword)
    *No divers bowgun =
    Cone horn III
    Base ATK 180
    DEX % 6
    MaxMP 300
    Critical Rate 75
    Aggro % 15
    % stronger against Neutral 25 -
    Base Stability % 50
    SHIELD
    Dark General
    Base DEF 20: VIT % 2 / Dark resistance % 10 / Guard Power % 30 / Guard Rate % 14 /
    Aggro % 30
    3rd anniv shield VII ~new upgrade 9/10/18
    ARMOR
    Brigadine (arco)
    Twilight Arm (arco)
    Lil empress (arco) new option 9/10/18
    Add Gears
    Charm belt (candela / dusk machina 10%aggro)
    Base Def 30: MaxMP 300 / Magical Resistance % 15 - / Aggro % 30 - / Neutral Resistance % 10
    *With cone horn III
    Shaved ice add - crate 20 + yashiro mom xtal +5 crate

    Circle of Order
    Base DEF 46: Physical Resistance % 20 - / Magical Resistance % 20 - / Light resistance % 10
    Special Gear
    Dark Fighter Bangle (memecoleous (12%aggro)/ tapir (ampr 10)
    base Def: MaxMP 400 / Accuracy 3 / Aggro % 25
    Avatar stats
    Hp or vit %
    Agro
    Ailment
    Ampr

    Crit rate = now 100%
    Total Agro% = from 127% ~ 118% if 3rd anniv shield VII use
    Total Ampr =
    47
    (10 base ampr >+18 from mp > 15 from xtals) +21 avatars<credits to @I robot
    + magic arrow 5 + decoy x2 + guardian <credits to @Tino
    Fractional barrier =14% with 3rd anniv VII shield + hero potum xtal
    combo 1
    shield bash > arm break(save) > sanctuary(swift) > warcry(save) > magic arrow(swift)
    combo 2
    moeba > arm break(save) > guardian(swift) > smoke(save) > warcry(smite)
    combo 3
    kick>warcry(save)>decoy or just replace kick with smash / sonic wave
    * Pots = i usually use giga speed pot, nothingelse
    * i miss using mp charge with this , and i can abuse perfect defense
    * now with full mtl stats. (75%ailment resist) less ailment is better imo:)
    First: cast aegis or protection
    Second: since i dont have provoke, i normally cast combo 2 first to get agro then use combo 1 to stun and land sanc + magic arrow, finally casting combo 3 for the decoy skill ( actually i only use combo 3 for mutliple mob kills. since ill get mp even thou i just spam p.def)
    Third: base on what i had experience on ems and on sdm... havin 117% agro seems good to attract more mobs to me away from my pt members if in case they "accidentally" hit there mobs via main skill or aoe skill
    At Altoblepas...maybe a trick to kill it?
    First time here.gimme a break:p

    At EMS x4 no provoke needed ..enjoy

    At scary...sorry kindah noob lol
     
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  2. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    AMPR=10(base)+18(MP)+15(xtals)=43AMPR without avatar ampr
    If you have avatar ampr 21(that's pretty decent) you get 64 AMPR, plus decoy shot basically doubles that.
    magic arrow also gives AMPR for the next 10 autos iirc.
    Guardian and arm break give a lot of aggro, Guardian also gives some ampr(I think?)
    It seems well made. have you tested this?
     
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    atm my tank :)
    and thanks for the info's
     
  4. Tino

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    Yeah your ampr without any ava stats is 43.Magic arrow adds 5 ampr when active bringing you to 48. If you set up decoy under arrow Ampr gets doubled to 96. So if you run out of your bgs atk range while the decoy can still hit Boss, you should experience to c almost 1 complete mp bar getting filled up.
    About Guardian ampr effect- it is 15 ampr for pt members that are bound to you. For yourself the number of players connected to you should add up e.g if you are connected to 2 pt members through Guardian you get additional 30 ampr
     
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    thanks mate:) still needs to run some test especially dealing with multiple and ailment mobs. 1st time as sdm last night . got beaten pretty bad hahaha. dang poision -_-
     
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    Why 2nd stat crit not mtl? , Not sure if 100 accuracy bowgun helps (i think was mad sniper)
     
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    Well use next sp then to get recovery to 10. You can heal yourself for free then/get resistance for 1 ailment 30secs long
     
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    The crit is to get 100% crit rate while still being able to use resistance gears. So he has the same effect that Toy hammer/drills give to sword/knuckle tanks while avoiding the damage reduction to 0 and 1
     
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    like what tino said :)
    i didnt know that recovery at lvl 10 can heal @@
     
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    Also,add HP boost. It adds a lot of HP when you use vit.(I think like from 2 to 7)
    and you didn't count guardian SP.
    Also, you could change your weapon's stats to VIT+7% MaxHP+7% Aggro+10%, Since you've put full tank stats.
     
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    add hp = erm i think im gonna stay with 20k ish hp seems manageable via pots since i have lvl 10 miniheal (2335 hp return) i think its good enough for 20k hp
    guardian = added i missed that lol ty
    if i change my current bg stats = my crit stats will be lower
    like what @Tino said i have resistance gears ( brig & twilight )
     
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    Yeah Resistance is much better than max HP. mini heal 500+10% iirc.
    but HP is useful too. unless the boss has factional damage, that is.
     
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    yep prolly with frac damage. but still can be avoided. thanks for the info's
    atm i still have 33 skill points to spare. still 50/50 on gloria skill. but from what @mayam said about it. ill prolly get it soon. :)
     
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    Gloria isn't that good, unless they changed the mechanics since I last used it.
    When I last used it, I believe Gloria was +200% def/mdef for non-shield and +300% for shield users. the problem is mdef and def follow an exponential decay in damage reduction, so anything above, say, 200 def is basically useless.
    If it gives resistance, or just flat out damage reduction, then take it.
     
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    i see ...thank you. i still have 33 skill points to spare. prolly might end up maxing recovery as per @Tino suggested.
     
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    capped, added a weird combo :p
     
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    Added video at ems..enjoy :)
     
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    Updated:
    Bowgun / xtal / crit rate% /agro% / hp /mp
    Toodles..... Enjoy:p
    And thank you again tino and yan for helping.
     
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    Update:
    Lvl 160
    Added
    Mononofu skills
    Toodles:)
     
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    Update:
    8/2/18
    Replace crafted bg to divers bg from octo event
    With 255mtl now (75%ailment resistance)
    Looking forward to 100% ailment
    Toodles :)
     

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