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Toram vs Alchemia (Making a Decision)

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Wolf King, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. Wolf King

    Wolf King Well-Known Member

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    I like Toram. I think I like Alchemia. They both have pros and really bad cons. Chief among the cons, they're both mmorpgs made by Asobimo. Aka... really friggin huge time sinks.

    Things I like about Toram:
    -Character customization and the character I was able to create.
    - Some of the armor and weapons designs.
    -(For better or for worse) The "class-less" system.
    -(Definitely for better or for worse) The in-game economy.
    -The simplicty of the menus and inventory.

    Things I like about Alchemia:
    -The combat (not perfect, needs a lot of work but it seems to be a decent pseudo-turn based action system... even though the mechanics of it are still confusing as hell to me despite being 20+ chapters in)
    -The freedom to join random skirmishes.
    -The detail of character customization.
    -(For better or for worse) The Job system.
    -Some of the skill/ability animations.

    Assume I dislike everything else that's not listed here. I can't juggle 2 super grindy mmos at once, probably because I never took juggling lessons from that circus clown way back when he offered. So I'm gonna have to drop one.

    I practically just got back from hiatus from Toram like a month or less ago, and I was telling myself I was actually going to get somewhere in the game this time. Then, I hit a wall again and Alchemia came out. Now, I just don't know.

    I think the biggest factor for me will be how my favorite type of class turns out to be in Alchemia. That being, the "Magic Swordsman" class. It didn't work out too well for me in Toram the first times I tried it. Alchemia has it too but I'm not sure how good/viable it is there. If it turns out to be more useful/viable in Alchemia than it is in Toram, I think that might be the selling point.

    Any thoughts are welcomed about this little predicament.
     
  2. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Alchemia actually has a better character customization and an even more open class system.
    No need to worry about lost skill points.
     
  3. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Also, Alchemia has a better avatar option.
    Weapon, shield,...everything can be used as wither gear or just avatar without the need of a synth system.
     
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    Warlord Waffle Well-Known Member

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    I thought alchemia combat system is gonna be like Infinity Blade but turn out I'm disappointed in the tutorial
     
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  6. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Alchemia is better.
     
  7. Wolf King

    Wolf King Well-Known Member

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    Alchemia has the better customization when it comes down to details but Toram has it better when it comes to options. Toram has more hair options and lets you add things like pony tails.

    Edit: And yeah, I'm starting to realize the class system thing. Looks like it's similar to FFT/TA in that skills you learn in one job carry over if you switch which is pretty awesome.

    In the Avatar department, Alchemia has accessory slots that effect stats, but there's no way to fully hide those accessories if they're too big I think. The only way I could figure out to hide a small pin, was to move it inside my my character model. Whereas with Toram, your accessories can be added or removed without consequence, and all of them can be made to look like whatever you want them to just about. Have a stupid hat but need the stats? Make it look like a belt or bag. If a similar system is in Alchemia, I haven't found it yet, so I just wear no accessories which gimps my character a lot statistics wise. Though not needing to synth does help with the other stuff so I rate them evenly here.

    Not familiar with infinity blade
     
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  8. Wolf King

    Wolf King Well-Known Member

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    LOLOLOL
    I neither agree nor disagree yet. But that is one effin awesome meme.
     
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    Alchemia is better for the graphic and character with your own lovely yome xD.
    But the combat system is too lag for coop. And i feels the need to have alot of grind for weapon and skill levelling, jobs leveling, event item exchange and etc.
     
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    We can go fishing in Alchemia, i love it. And guess what? you can also found this while fishing
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    Pretty awesome, right?
     
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    Pro: We can play by ourselves cause another people will just disturb your date with your waifu.
    Con: We only play by ourselves cause we got waifu as party so it doesn't feels like online game.

    To waifu or not to waifu, thats the real question. owo

    "If you want some real human interaction, play Toram and embrace the pervs at Hora Diomeda." - MAER, 2018
     
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  12. NIHIL

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    ^someone ever whispered to me like this, legit. Hora Diomedia isn't a safe place after all...
     
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  13. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    But if you want humor, play Alchemia for that rough and raw translated story chat.
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    Wolf King Well-Known Member

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    Oh my lord. Looks like I woke up just to die. Yall killing me with the memes
     
  17. Wolf King

    Wolf King Well-Known Member

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    This game looks hella good with max settings, dear lord. I know what Morty felt like after he experienced perfect level.
     
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  18. MAER

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    Welcome to the best city in Toram, where everyone flirts. 0w<)b

    Oh I forgot one of Alchemia's con: the text often go out from the text bubble which will insta-trigger lots of players.
     
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    Hope the operation team will fix that problem in the next update, it's so annoying for real.
     
  20. ToramRises

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    if the Alchemia battle system is same as Toram, I will definitely move to Alchemia!
     
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