Question about Knuckle tank

Um so i'm a nub and i'm making a Knuckle tank right now because i like Knuckle(But i feel so useless as a DPS Knuckle or just get kicked out often). But this is just my 2nd time making a tank so i have a big problem...

Aggro holding at mass kill.You probably already known, a lot of new bosses have minions(Venena, Titeres, etc). This is a real pain for Knuckle tank. I know 1h is better in mass kill, but again i WANNA bring a Knuckle to party ;_; Is it really possible to tank multiple enemies with Knuckle? Not only mass kill but also bosses with far away minions like Venena which mean people will most likely stay outside guardian, so i need to somehow generate more aggro than that.
Well... anyway, i have found a few skills that work on multiple targets, please correctly if i'm wrong, and also i wanna know if this idea is dumb or not...
-Decoy Shot: Infinite range and affect all enemies, also good in mass kill/slow bosses so i could spam P.def much better.
-Sneak attack: idk if i should take this skill or not, i think it affect everything that target me. Leave it at lv1 may be.
-Sanctuary: Affect everything inside its range only. Well i have bunch of sp left anyway, pick this for annoying spike aoe that take less than 10% HP.
-War cry: I think everyone would pick this for tanker, infinite range.
-Impact: Can be used to create bunch of combo, magic proration, and i can put 1sp to Finale as ender.
With these skills, i think of some combo(Only short, i never like long combo):
-Earth bind, Impact save, War cry swift/Sneak swift if it really work.
-Holy fist, Decoy save, Sanctuary swift
-Shield bash, Guardian save, War cry swift, Finale smite(Faster than War cry smite but more cp, not a problem anyway)
Possibly more combo but i can't really think right now since i haven't even created this char x_x
Am i missing something? Please tell me how to improve it... i have been soloing for a while so i wanna play in party, atleast with my friends.
Thank in advance.

 

what makes 1h better in mass kill? holding mob aggro with knux should be the same as 1h. you have chariot line aoe for mob and earthbind for stopping mobs.

and tanks dont need to adjust if the dps does not care about managing aggro and stays outside guardian range. unspoken rule is that dps stays in guardian range unless he can manage aggro on his own outside it.

 

A tank doesn't need sneak attack. You need provoke instead. ^_^

 

I just think Chariot is kinda slow, bad AoE and sometime Fear can mess up things... But i will still try it, thank you.

 

Oh i mean i actually want to use it as aggro holder since it generate 400 aggro and may be multiple target xD not to hide. I leave it at lv1.

 

tanking doesn't always have to be taking every aggro for everything.

of course sword tank is better at aggro multiple monsters but knuckle tank is alot better at canceling and interrupting boss skill.

and aggro can always change unexpectally for some small reasons even if you have alot already,some member will take it from you by using some combo.

you only need to focus on the most important part in tanking,other members somehow will manage even if a few miniboss were to chase them...

it would be better if not all were targeting you because some miniboss has a tendency of running straight into the main boss fatal skills by targeting you,which makes it hard for other member to get close.
for example grecia,or titeres puppets.

 

Oh, its true that sometime i lost aggro for no reason... especially at Maton Sword.
I understand better now xD
I do afraid that my pt might blame me for that though..

 

youre just being too negative on yourself.

you should learn some confidence like other dps users. they spam combos and dont manage aggro, blames tank. they get hit by an aoe and die in 1 hit, asks "why me?". says "lfp full break" and does not help in tapping. does not get attacker rank, leaves party. dies 5 seconds after boss fight starts, gets resurrected and dies 5 seconds after that and says "noob party". its always everyones else's fault and not theirs.

 

Sneak is actually a pretty good alternative for Berserk if you don't want the 1 Def/Mdef(non-sword), you just got to swift it. Only 1 normal attack will cancel it too so no problem and it only cost 1 sp if you're already taking Decoy shot. As for Decoy shot, I don't know if it's considered as a self buffer skill(aggroes all monsters with aggro on you) or an attack skill(only aggroes those you hit) as you can't even cast it without a target.

Chariot is as fast as meteor(don't use Chariot if you're not gonna level it to 10) and easy to hit as you'll most likely lure to compress multiple minibosses so your DPS(CF, Finale, Meteor) will hit all of them. Fear is also a godsend on miniboss. Can I ask how fear can mess things up?

If you don't mind the 1 Def, a quick combo that aggroes everything:

Starter>Berserk(save)>Warcry(cons)>Sneak(swift)

1,200+ Aggro, 1+ mp cost(depends on your starter) that you can spam. You can replace Berserk with Chariot if you don't want 1 Def/Mdef. On my deleted tank, my starter is Reflex and I just compensate for the lost defense with Gloria(got 1k CSPD back then but still a hassle to recast every 30 seconds).

 

Umm its true that i always feel like i couldn't do good things. One of many reason why i choose to solo more than party up ...

 

Oh thats a nice combo, thank you xD i do worry about my def so i might replace Berserk with Chariot. Easier to aim Chariot that way.
About fear, sometime it mess up boss pattern and i miss P.def, i know it happened because i used to solo bosses with Knuckle shield. For mini boss, it does help a lot.

 

I ate Titeres for my breakfast, lunch and dinner. I do use a sword tank but warcry, decoy and sanctuary is enough to hold the aggro most of the time. You need some aggro gears though, for an assurance. What makes an ohs tank better at multi-mobs tanking? If anything its just bind strike, and you can still learn stuffs like warcry or berserk if you want

 

Knuckles may be harder because you won't have as much HP, so you will have to focus on disrupting the boss' attacks and evading them. But since you should be able to get MP quickly from auto attacks, you'll be able to use provoke often to keep aggro.

 

Oh, im using ampr equipment ... only Dark General shield. Knuckle lack ampr so much

 

Provoke is weird, sometime one of my teammate just died and revived, then he use only one decoy but boss chased him right after that, even 5 provoke couldn't steal back... idk why, may be i can't spam it.

 

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Decoy, sanctuary works like warcry. Im pretty sure of it. I could pull the puppets with simple combo of decoy>warcry>smited finale whenever I lose the aggro, no way only warcry would be as effective as that

 

1. make sure you've hit/generating aggro at least once to the monster (but from what you've said i'm sure it's in the middle of battle, so just skip this one)
2. make sure you're using provoke lv 10
3. make sure your internet is stable since usually when you're reconnecting the aggro will be lost

i'm pretty sure provoke is a lifesaver, and no matter what only long combo without sneak one who can out aggro provoke (except that fkin finale non sneak)

 

Ow.. my internet isn't stable at all xD may be that's why.
Anyway i will still keep Provoke.

 

Lag is a big problem it reset agroo from tank also make skills dont deal dmg if lag too heavy. Old devices and wifi potatoes have that problems. So maybe the only problem in your tank is the lag, if you are lagy cant tank. I dunno you but when my device so lagy i cant also move the character makin me eat all aoes cause cant dodge any lol

 

you know someone is lag when the boss does aoe and someone inside does not get hit and only evades 5 seconds after the aoe finished.