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Impact damage

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Kyosuke, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. Kyosuke

    Kyosuke Well-Known Member

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    Can you share your highest damage with impact? I'm thinking of using it as a dps skill but don't have a good mage to test it with.

    Ty in advance :).
     
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    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    A staff mage with 3000 MATK should be able to do 20k with it if it's fully prorated, while an MD mage with 3000 MATK should be able to do 40k when fully prorated. I also did some math and figured out that an MD mage using an Impact> storm (smite)> 1-2mp skill (consecutive) could potentially be able to out dps a staff mage using the same combo. I haven't confirmed that though.
     
  3. Kyosuke

    Kyosuke Well-Known Member

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    Damm thats pretty good thanks for sharing that and doing the math for it lol
     
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    Good to know. Didn't realize you could have impact as the starter to a combo. Will have to check on that later today. :p
     
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    PauPauPau Well-Known Member

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    mages prorate? i dont see any prorating before a combo...
    its is the most used mage combo starter. impact, finale(smite), holy fist(cons)
     
  6. Jbazt

    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    You need to see impact not for its damage but for its ability to cut the next skill mp cost to half so you can use your main DPS skills efficiently and can make your combo shorter that will give mobility regardless of whats your role. And its also a nice skill for tumbling multiple targets so imho dmg is the last thing you can ask from a very nice skill already.
     
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    As a mage, I do prorate everytime I battle. The problem is your attacks aren't hitting well enough you might want to spam the finales instead, especially in a party. I kept getting outdps by tenryu users had I prorate properly, gotta manage the aggro tho. I put short sneak 1 mp combo as an initial sneak, and put another sneak attack at the end of my finale combo. My mage build is a int/Vit btw, I don't have crazy matk, just good enough gears to hit 3k matk.
     
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    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    Part of damage results (dunno for mages) is kinda relying on RNG favor from "whack". Even if we got full 2s gears and combos are properly prorated, a decent geared rival can still beat us when the whack skill RNG favors his/her combo more. Katana is one that can have shortest dps combo. Compared to other classes, they can deliver 2-3 sets vs 1 other dps combo. The shorter the combo the more chance it will land properly prorated, the more combo the more chance on that whack RNG.
     
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  10. Kyosuke

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    Yup, I know how good the halving of mp cost is but I wanna try merging it with the new magic blade skills and using it as a dps on top of the ability to halve mp cost since its damage is pretty high when using magic devices in comparison to staves/staff.
     
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    I see. Its magic so yeah anyone who will use it with a main magic dps skills will automatically gets a dmg boost from matk. "Using it as a dps" gave me the idea that you will use smite on it. Sorry maybe i dont understand my english so bad. And maybe not only that. Every magic atk can be boosted coz the description of skills clearly sez reduced atk dmg reduction if MD is sub and increases matk+cspd
     
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    Yeah, combos that start with impact have been around for a while, but they can typically only be used by builds that can regenerate their mp at extreme speeds.
    lol true, though I like to prorate by using holy fist to get my damage up first since skills prorate regardless of whether or not they hit, then I'll put 1-2 physical skills in my combo to continue prorating. I don't prorate in parties
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    I came here expecting something about Impact Type weapons in MH. I can say I'm very disappointed
     
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    Just use throwing knife spam to prorate yourself '-')~~~
     
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    Impact is good for tumbling/interrupt skill but as a dps skill, its hard to expect much
     
  16. Kyosuke

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    yeah but im thinking of using it as quick dps, not instant burst

    And im not exactly sure how burst works
    But if it goes the same way I think its going to work then impact would be side dps to charge up burst for instant cast or something like that
     
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    Bad news: Cast time of burst can't be reduced by using magic: impact. (lame, dont read)
     
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    Yes the reason why many dps salty bout finale is because proration is done automatically by its members. Without mages prorating and even with them spamming , their dmg will more likely to hit on its decent to highest output. Maybe this release of magic swordsman is devs ways to balance it out by introducing a role that will use magic for magic proration.
     
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    Phys users are salty about finale because it has 3000 constant, cannot miss, cannot graze, and doesn't even need to crit. Finale is just broken op for where we are at
     
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    They exchange that for boredom and vulnerability.
     
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