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Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Horbit, Mar 17, 2019.

  1. RueBear

    RueBear Active Member

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    Oof they did have Almategia and Gate of Rebellion but they havent posted anything new or updates on the games for like 2 years now. Assuming they dropped the creation.
     
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  2. Quit toram

    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    I agree with this, lately I've been trying to increase my damage output along with my survivability.
    There is a problem with this mindset though. Quite a lot of people only care about being DPS in the party and ruining proration. Others are just too glassy they die in 1 hit and blame the tank.
    In most cases the best is to have a combination of both damage and survivability.
     
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  3. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    To all pure dps this is for u.

    Viva la 250 lvl cap where bosses be lvl300 and dps will get whacked, with their low hp they scurry like rats, trap!, back to life with a revive droplet they hit smack!, trading blows thinking they're evenly matched its just the 1st round you think there'd be a 2nd?, nah kicked from party on the blacklist long forgotten, dps laughs and asks why, dps the 1 diffirence between us is i did the dmg you couldve did but you died, you better rethink in these times that 40vit in your stat screen is just a lie
     
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  4. Azin.

    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    i didnt mention about survivability or whatsoever i meant the other potential each class has..

    me myself is a brawler and guess what im interrupting the boss while tanking it and doing decent amount of dmg without ruining proration. dmg aint everything..

    dw doesnt need decoy for ampr.
    mages doesn't need long combo and ruin the physical proration
    etc.

    ppl don't need to stick on dps/tank/proration. single task build a builder must know how to be flexible. isn't a damage hungry kind of player. learn how to play the game not ruin the game. also dps aint the most efficient build since ur gonna burn alot of pots while soloing.
    balanced builds are
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  5. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Its more of a matter of optimization for me. You make a certain build for a certain role and purpose. For some boss you can dish out more damage out of yourself with the tradeoff of survivability. Other situations require you to sacrifice some damage for more survivability or utility.

    You have multiple character slots so you can make each of them to fit certain situations instead of strictly making a jack-of all trade.

    Its all comes down to what you want and what you need. And of course, you need to know what youre doing, and what you expect out of your characters. Thats why I make different chars and try to make them work for each of their own pros and cons. Though I tend to make a more versatile build on the skill-side, and make some variety on the gears instead. Ive also made a specialized build, though. (ehm, glass cannon gsw meikyo mage)

    So yeah, dps oriented isnt wrong per say. It all comes down to the most effective way to battle. And most battles were easy, thats why the majority of people wants to get the best damage output as possible

    Thats why decoy is so broken, its arguably the most used skill to have to be the meta. DWs dont need them? Maybe, but SC spam is just that good. Thats why people use them.

    What if I want a Nutella filled jar instead of water?
     
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  6. MetaFlux

    MetaFlux Well-Known Member

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    Wont most of dps will have their stats maxed and will move to vit by cap 255:eek:
     
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  7. Quit toram

    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    If they do release Apostolia (a system in Iruna that lets you raise your stat cap above 255) surely DPS hungry people will put all their points into their main atk growth stat.
    No class really needs Decoy. Halberds, despite using Decoy, some still use 1mp long comboes that ruin proration. Katana users should auto atk with Shukuchi 1-2 times between Tenryu to recover MP and prorate. DW has doubled AMPR and has access to Trigger Slash and Shadowstep for more AMPR. It's just that people are too fixated with DPS and the meta.
    Have you seen my solo vids? ;) shameless self advertising I guess
    Unfortunately though, some bosses are impossible (or pretty hard) to solo without using revitas. Dang those anti melee bosses. Maybe possible if you use healing skills such as Bloody Bite or Heal.
     
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  8. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Yes, we dont have much content other than monster PVE and those PVE are a part of spina grinding cycle so you obviously want the most effective way.
    we also have the gear synthesize feature to make anything looks the way you want even with some limitation. Plus avatars would cover them all. You dont see a mismatched gears involuntarily used players for the sole stats, like, a black knight with pink shield or something. Gears are craftable and everyone uses the same set of stats to be meta. And we dont have item rarity system to boost diversity. Like, one build created around your legendary rarity weapon. I guess master tonfa is in a way, something like that. So far those conventional statted gears are universally good.

    The more recent NPC gears are the silver lining. Those unique stats can be made into unique builds that requires you to get out of the conventional-meta build. And we may see more of this items and then the player base might shift to various unique builds. The Meta offensive-dps mindset is unlikely to go away though. It needed to be adressed on the enemy system side. Make the harder, more quirky, force people to make specialised build instead of single lane of dps mindset. The game itself has been going into that direction. Tanks have more significance now, support awaits with the new minstrel /dancer tree. More boss will have a more complicated mechanics.

    An ideal free, classless game should encourage unique, specialised builds. At least that's what I believe.



    Well, the future of toram for us is rather bleak though, due to this circumstance. I'm just hoping for a better game for their next project
     
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    Fck my 1hr essay turned into shit :mad: :(
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    My condolence
     
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  12. Makunouchisenshuu

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    I've tried Iruna but once you've played Toram it's annoying to see how much they improved..
    Most comments are about Asobimo games, so there really aren't any suggestions?

    I suggest Eternium, it's really fun for some time.
    And "Epic Conquest" it's kind of short but excellent playability.
     
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    Well, the thread poster asked about the possibility of Asobimo developing another game.. And they seem to be doing so. We just don't have any info regarding most of their ongoing projects listed in the white paper.
    Welp yeah, at this point I can't expect a huge game changing update for Toram. I wish their next game will be better in every aspect and not abusable.
     
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    Thats why i put the last sentence tho. I do know whats happening, but if w/o pvp, we are sort of a greedy thing on being a glass canon, what else if theres a pvp, the game community will become more unbalance.
     
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  15. R3borned

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    If you are fan of Sao and that one of your reason for playing toram then I suggest to play Sao if welll here are few thing that game offer which other games doesn’t first there is no ranking system so no one see who did the most dmg although my account is op I still don’t get any rank you can play at any rank with other people and don’t get kicked or discriminated from pt because u are below level cap which currently one of the issue in toram even if some one is doing much dmg than level cap player at lower level they instantly get kicked cause they are low level
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Alot of ppl are put off by the gacha skills SAO IF has
     
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  17. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Aw come on, what's 100$ for 1x 4* skill?
     
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    They literally pUt sword skill on top, felt sad cause u will see almost all player uses sword weapon
     
  19. Jbazt

    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    Screw asobimo and its games with full of cheaters and poor security. Just wait for this next big thing that will soon to come on mobiles.
     

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