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This is real progress, given it definitely doesn't work against those thousands of bots out there. They should just integrate some anticheat engine to their game even if it's at cost of performance

 

Not that easy, MOD is easy to detect because they change the coding in the game but BOT is not. BOT didn’t make any modification in the game, it’s just simply replace human input into machine input, from developer side what they can see is the same input only, until they find out that player continue Performing the same action over and over again for few hours.

One of the ways to handle this farming BOT is to Slightly increase on drop rate and Increase mob difficulty, example like the map farming casket and red steel box.

Well, hoping they can have better idea, it’s not easy to find a good game nowadays.

 

Some anticheats also covers identifying macros, which is exactly what you described.
My concern would rather identify those who use syncronized multi instances, like bluestacks one. They could "just" compare actions performed by all players on same map to find suspects, but ig that would be "a bit" more of work for the server. Limiting number of clients connected through same network could work, but vpn allows to bypass such type of verification

 

...I'll say this now. The way Toram is designed, it is impossible to stop botting. The only way you can stop botting is if the game converts fully towards an action type system and not this simulated thing we have going on right now.

How the game works is that it relies too much on automated actions.
You tap a skill > automated action occurs.

They need to re-write the game on it's foundation to remove all automated features just to start to tackle the issue. Following that, they then need to remake a lot of automatic stuff like
> Automatic character movement to target
> 3D projectile system (this would cause so much lag...)
> Updated collision detection (this is actually quite the nightmare to work with.)
> Enemy AI to work with those last options such as enemy repositioning, wall detection, smart actions, player detection for player projectile, etc.

The good part is, with all that done, there won't be any bots unless they hack the game itself via mod and at that point, it's a simple matter of creating an auto-response program.

 

That isn't a small change, that's a almost a new game and very likely would demand a fair amount of time. It's very unlikely they would do this on toram, but maybe it happens on toram successor.
On current state, even a simpler report system and faster/automated reports evaluation would help, because it isn't about having a completely bot-free game, but just about greatly reducing their numbers

 

It is a new game which is why i said it won't be possible to be removed by design of game.

Faster reports can be abused by bot reporting or trolls, it's not the correct solution and even then, most normal players don't care to report them, the nature of the game being one you can pick up and play on the go not sit down, set up and grind.

Because this relies on touch input, nothing is stopping a player from just using physical constructs to bot even if, impossible theory, all soft botting methods are blocked.

 

Emm its tier 1 so i wouldnt expect more than shuriken throwing

Dw is ninja dont worry

Seems that they needed more than 3 years to acknowlegde the bots as a problem lol. Poor economy poor bots no more funds...

Friend dont think anymore Ninjas doesnt use Iai stance to attack with ninja are dw skill branch

 

But dw skill branch is already a sub skill of sword skill tree its impossible to have su-sub skill tree so i dont think that it'll be a dw sub skill tree :v

Only katana has no sub skill tree thats why im leaning towards katana

 

Nope you are wrong despite seems so DW is a main weapon branch do ninja skill are gonna be for dw. Dont fight versus destiny

 

dw skills to me always seemed like somewhat of a dancer/ hero-ish like skill tree to me more than anything. I bet ninja skill tree is just gonna be a subclass like assassin, priest or knight, and will be based on gears with evasion and attack speed (knucks, daggers, light body armor) like for the clones n stuff

 

hahaha you're right!!

it seems that it can only be used by sub dagger, maybe.

 

If dw is a main so shield skill is a main branch too?

Also how will you throw a shuriken when ur both hands are holding ur sword?. And dw is too flashy to be a ninja tbh

Or they could implement katana as a sub of knux? Hmmmm that would be dope

 

watch them implement "throwing" weapons from iruna again. "but what about throwing dagger skills" i feel like asobimo will make it very disc/fan like. plus theres 2hs w katana in the name iirc. i think a new shuriken weapom type or disc weapon type would b cool

 

That would be dope also new range weapon would be dope. Bow users wont reign on long range combat if ever that happened

 

Pal did u just downloaded the game where you get shield skills? Becuz not on the main weapon branches one.
And thats why magic blade sucks becuz is not a main weapon branch.

Highly doubt it but pvp is coming so everything is possible

But only tier 1 would be released so we can discard being a new weapon as I said surely will be a sub branch of DW

 

With this weapon in both hand....it’s possible.

And this guy always throw his sword...

 

Dw skills can only be used whenever u have ohs as a sub same with the shield u can only get those skill if your equipping a shield. Lol.
Same with crusher skill its a sub skill tree for knux but can be a stand alone skill tree.

He only throw his sword whenever he cant reach his enemy. Goblin slayer is not a traditional character he will be anything as long as he kills goblin

 

Dual Swords are a weapon class, that's why they are in Weapon Skills.
same for Barehand.

this is Ninja. they will be in Buff Skills.
and most likely not in the Library,
but from a Book, like Magic Warrior and Dark Power.

Shurriken Throw is out of the question. we already have multiple dagger throwing skills and arrows can also be thrown.

 

A shuriken (Japanese: 手裏剣; literally: "hidden hand blade") is a Japanese concealed weapon that was used as a hidden dagger or metsubushi to distract or misdirect.

They are also known as throwing stars, throwingstars, or ninja stars, although they were originally designed in many different shapes. Contrary to this nomenclature, the shuriken (ninja stars) were not in the arsenal of those who practiced ninjutsu. Modern movies and tales portray ninjas using shuriken, but they were mainly used by samurai and ashigaru soldiers.
Shuriken were supplementary weapons to the sword or various other weapons in a samurai's arsenal, although they often had an important tactical effect in battle. (Copy/Paste from Wikipedia )


Just saw this article, shuriken were used by samurais rather than ninjas.

 

He would throw his newborn child if it could kill the goblin god.

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