PRORATION MECHANISM

Red_Fox · Aug 5, 2021

Momoeater said: ↑

From crusher skills, combination skill does 3 hits, does it prorate 3 times or only 1?
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every skill prorates only once, no matter how many hits it deals.

Momoeater · Aug 5, 2021

Combination skill does normal attack prorate, like how many other skills even do normal attack prorate?
I think only combination skill does so.
Would have been great if it actually did 3 normal attack prorate with 1 time skill activation.

Side Character · Aug 5, 2021

Does "Cloning" from Ninja Skill deal any proration?

KlNG · Aug 5, 2021

it's never too late;

AnnXYZ · Aug 6, 2021

KlNG said: ↑

Good day to all !
I know that this topic has been discussed and discussed many times, but due to language differences I still have misunderstandings.
I will share point by point my knowledge about the system of proration, present data from the forums.
Please correct or supplement if I incorrectly indicated or understood something.
1)Proration - this property of bosses "get used" to a certain type of attack.
2) each boss has a so-called price * of the Prorate(a value that shows how much the value of the new Prorate indicator will change from the previous one). At the beginning of the battle, the boss has a minimum proreit.
Any ultimate skill from the first hit will receive -50% damage.
This indicator will be equal for all bosses -50%. This is protection from vanshot and botovodstva.
But this indicator can be taken as 0%(if you count from zero).
If you use the proration correctly, you can reach a maximum proration coefficient of 250.
If I correctly understood that this indicator (for example for magic skills) is reached by spam of one of types of other attacks(auto/physical). For example the boss has such *indicators* proration:
auto-20
physical - 30
magic - 20
When an autoattack (first strike) occurs, we get the following values:
Auto-0
physical-30
Magic - 20
But it is easier to count on the damage bonus in %.
For example, if the boss has a Prorate of about 20, then after 5 hits, the bonus damage will be +50% of the damage from the Ult.
Prorate more than 100 in the table is calculated against prorata different types of attacks.
The maximum increase in skill damage will be +50% as well.
For example, the boss has prorate 250 due to physical and magic attacks.
In this case, you can spam the final several times with almost no loss of damage.
From 250 will be subtracted from the table indicator in the amount of for example 30 multiplied by the number of attacks of this type (the finale 3 hits).
It turns out after the first final will be 250-30*3=140 - still above 100.
It means that the next finale will be a +40-50% damage.
As the first one was +50%.
I for themselves (for understanding of) illustrate that damage floats from -50% until +50% to damage skila.
If the physical DPS gives 4-5 skills of the physical type, it raises the magic prorate to +50%.
That is, after physical damage, the final will be the maximum.
Indicators proration for each boss affect the number of attacks which should be applied.
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Imagine the boss-Cerberus.
Auto attack 15%
Physical 20%
Magic 20%.
Conclusion:
1)7 autoattacks raise physical and magic damage to +50%.
2)5 physical attacks raise auto attack and magic damage up to +50%.
And also 5 magic attacks.
Swordsmen spam impact + Ulta.
That is, 1 magic attack + 2 physical attacks.
This way they reduce the magic prorate by 10% and raise it by 20%
0-10+20.
Bows only spam with physical attacks.
It turns out +10% to magic damage.
At this time, you continue to autoattack.
And you raise the physical and magic Prorate at the same time. If the rate of Prorate 100, it is +50% to damage.
If higher than 100, it is also +50% and + a stock of Prorate for your spam(without loss of damage).
That is, on the second / third stroke of the finale. That is, all three (with a coefficient of 250% will account for 50% of the MAG damage.
Again, if >100.
At 250, the cut will be:

1)First final:50/50/50
2) Second: 50/50/50
3) Third: 50/50/40
But since swordsmen use auto attacks while you are casting, it will always be +50.
The third blow is 10% of the damage of the first. Prorate it is almost nothing lowers damage(and so small).
I for reliability before the first custom do 3-4 autoattacks, before the second 2.
And I cast the final after the first physical Ult(for the prorate reserve).

About this table.
The left column shows the reduction of damage from spam of the same type??
This is not much like the truth(please tell me about it).
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Old men, are you still here? Tell me more about the table ... I would be very grateful
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Question, so, the bigger the %proration rate makes it easier to increase the other type of damage?

Red_Fox · Aug 7, 2021

AnnXYZ said: ↑

Question, so, the bigger the %proration rate makes it easier to increase the other type of damage?
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yes. you can observe this at Silver Roar, which has all proration rates at max value. after every attack, the same attack type will drop off to it's minimum (50%) and other attack types will be twice as powerful. (but only once, then it's reversed)

AnnXYZ · Aug 8, 2021

Red_Fox said: ↑

yes. you can observe this at Silver Roar, which has all proration rates at max value. after every attack, the same attack type will drop off to it's minimum (50%) and other attack types will be twice as powerful. (but only once, then it's reversed)
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So, according to the table, if I am battling against pillar coenubia, and then I spam Impact->Dt/meteor/sc combo like there is no tomorrow, that means the party's magic damage will lower significantly. Is this statement correct?

Aka Kuro · Aug 8, 2021

AnnXYZ said: ↑

Question, so, the bigger the %proration rate makes it easier to increase the other type of damage?
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Nope, the bigger the number simply means bigger fluctuation of that damage type due to proration. Please check the video for detail.

AnnXYZ said: ↑

So, according to the table, if I am battling against pillar coenubia, and then I spam Impact->Dt/meteor/sc combo like there is no tomorrow, that means the party's magic damage will lower significantly. Is this statement correct?
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Nope. For impact ->Dt/meteor/sc, impact is count as magic proration and Dt, meteor, sc are physical proration. So magic damage will be decreased by impact but increased back by Dt/meteor by same amount. So, magic damage will be the same after the combo. Again, please watch the video...

AnnXYZ · Aug 8, 2021

Aka Kuro said: ↑

Nope, the bigger the number simply means bigger fluctuation of that damage type due to proration. Please check the video for detail.

Nope. For impact ->Dt/meteor/sc, impact is count as magic proration and Dt, meteor, sc are physical proration. So magic damage will be decreased by impact but increased back by Dt/meteor by same amount. So, magic damage will be the same after the combo. Again, please watch the video...

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Gee, thanks a lot mate. It really helps.

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