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confused about HIT vs FLEE

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by mark o doom, Jun 23, 2023.

  1. mark o doom

    mark o doom Well-Known Member

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    1 to 100 here it doesn't mean anything to the reality of the game, otherwise crit graze would start at 1 and the line is sitting around 35?
     
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    all i see is a fine simulation of pachinko
     
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    Purely contextual on how u feel reading what he says. Since emotion and hostility cant carry via text very well. But yeah I do suggest alternatively testing in game. It can further your understanding better than any explanation can anyway. Our explanations are all via our own testing method(s) and info we already know.
     
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    max dodge 85% = dodge rate cannot be greater than 85
    50% hit rate -> 50% dodge rate
    50 is less than 85, it does not exceed the limit
    you don't have a 85% chance to dodge.
    if the result of the hit rate calculation is 50%, your chance to dodge that is 50%.
    you ignored every answer in this thread, at times even your own made-up answers.
    if you substract two equal values the result will be 0. always.
    the values must be different to get any other number.
    water is wet.
    would you look back at the first post? you even posted the formula yourself.
    so you do understand the factual information yet willingly chose to ignore it. why did you even ask in the first place when you actually don't want to know?
    that is physics, not biology. and unless the two liquids start an exothermic reaction causing at least one of them to evaporate, the container will be filled with 200ml even if the liquids don't mix (like water and oil).
     
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    Well, in a sense he's kinda right. I'm just that easy to get irritated.

    Since he just outright denies everything everybody says regardless, I lost my cool. But blame me because I couldn't explain stuff any clearer, especially when I can't think straight with all that.

    Like how he couldn't distinguise "maximum chance" from "actual chance"... or more...
     
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    Reading your reply calmly made me realize how many details I missed with a hot head :keklmao:

    It can include chemistry too if the 2 liquids have chemical reaction with each other, and most reactions that I know of that include 2 liquids usually end up with one new liquid and either dissolved/precipitated solid or a vapor substance. Anyway, I don't understand how that example has anything related to biology.
     
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    Sorry, Saw this thread and look at how people are arguing on a simple fact. haha! What Red Fox said in his last post is correct, kinda difficult to understand if there is a lot of words in the screen.
    Foresight just changes the limit of monsters accuracy, by decreasing it from the 25% minimum chance to hit you to 15% minimum chance to hit you. That is it, kindly disregard the 85% chance to dodge as a separate value, asobimo has problems with translating sometimes, just focus on the 15% minimum accuracy/ chance to hit you.

    But then again, toram sucks at explaining things and you really need to dig deep for you to understand the mechanics.
     
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