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† Cypherian's Legacy Build †

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Cypherian, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. Sakuraid

    Sakuraid Twitch: Sakuraid Elite Member

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    A couple of years ago? How could you start when DW wasn't even in the game? DW arrived around 1.5 years ago. So it isn't really a "couple".
     
  2. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    a couple is 2 years. it was back in 2015. dont be so specific. its 2017. technically a couple.
     
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  3. Mozza

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    Cypherian how about combo? Long combo? I dont have any combo
     
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  4. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    try out your own combos.
    my build revolves around high ampr so i can prorate and regen mp at the same time so i dont need long combos, only short nuke combos.

    Straight forward All Cons combos, and an Astute Phantom nuke combo
     
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  5. Mozza

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    If i use phantom it with smith or cons?
     
  6. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Well, Smite of course.
    Also, just to add to what Cyph said, see the list of skills and see how the work against a boss. For example, Spinning is VERY useful on BKoD because his fractional attacks count as an autoattack, and Knockback has the ability to stop any autoattack without it counting as an interrupt, saving you some HP (and Revitas). For bosses that are immune to Knockback, Spinning will work more as a DPS tool for bosses that are slow or stationary.
     
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  7. Mozza

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    I want ask something now, someone use phantom with smith but it cost just 1mp, how to be like that._.? If im think about it phantom and smith is cost 8mp
     
  8. TheXIIIthGuy

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    That's because they use Save tags. Save tags allow you to have MP stored in a "bank" depending on the skill you put the tag on, and that "bank" will be used before your actual MP.
    The problem with this is that the Save tag decreases your damage drastically (a Smite skill does 150% of its normal damage; a Smite skill after a Save skill will only does 90% of its normal damage), and you don't want that for a nuke skill. To compensate, people make long combos in order to mitigate the Save tag's penalty, but long combo is slow and often ruins proration, so you don't want that either. Plus, you don't need the tag either: this build is focused on maintaining the proration in a pendulum-like equilibrium (DW have pretty strong autos and Trigger gives its user the ability to auto cancel, and their skill damage isn't too shabby either, especially after the update, so they manipulate proration to have a pretty strong boost from both ends) and have AMPR to regenerate mana quickly, so the Save tag's use is limited to chaining buff skills.
    And Smited Phantom will only cost 8 MP if it's the last skill in the combo. If you put another skill after it, it will cost 4 MP again (but the skill after Phantom will have a 50% damage reduction).
     
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  9. Mozza

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    Oww thanks alot, sorry for long explain. I understand now thanks
     
  10. Boltz

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    Can u post your combo for more understanding?
     
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    Damn! You, sensei have restored my faith in dual weild...
    I was thinking of deleting my Assassin dw because the auto-attacks lock me in 1 place giving me inability to move away in time away from 'red aoes' :oops:
    but after reading your guide 'Neva-eva'! :rolleyes:
    Awesome Guide!
    Thanks A Lot!
     
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    But can it get support rank off a 2h warcry spam?
     
  13. picoli

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    Im following this guide and it works really well for soloing normal bosses. However the low hp (3k+1k) Really kills me str8 for bosses in nightmare mode. how do i perform a off-tank role in this scenario?

    Also any tips on how to attack animation cancel efficiently. sometimes im only able to auto att cancel once for the combo with spinning slash while other times i can do it twice(Spinning slash,Shadow step save ,trigger slash swift)
     
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    what helpful information. Tysm ^^
     
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    For reasons I could no longer remember, I had Hard Hit at 8 and Sonic Blade at 5 for Blade branch. Probably another guide I followed before quitting months ago.

    Do I move those 3+5 skill points or just keep chugging along till I save enough orbs for a rare chance of reset?
     
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  16. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    save for reset. or if youre at a level below 100, better remake ur char. i also used sonic blade as a pseudo shadow step before shadow was released
     
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    Teach me pls to dual wield a 2H Sword :D:D:D
     
  18. Keiran

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    bump the new additonal Grecia mask is a better version of two headed snake crown and a 1s is cheap
     
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    Share combo pls !
     
  20. Madara Uchiha

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    Can this build help me solo present boss like imiticia or ecb
    I would love to see it
     

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