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i have impact but no dagger and i dont use warcry.. why? cuz too many ppl use it.. also im not into support hugging.. imo.. not everyone wanta to rank hug.. if we already do that we are just like swordfu that who like to spam shits and rank hug.. lol

 

Not coz of it being a support skill, its needed coz knux need more atk as their growth is so low, war cry can give 90-100atk depending on your gears much higher than what godspeed has to offer.
Its always like this, support skills in toram >>>> passive skills.
Quick aura lvl10 has 3min duration and will add more than 900aspd for full agi brawl that too much higher than what godspeed can give.

 

What are you even going on about? Nobody cares that War Cry gives support ranking. Outside of getting the 1000 support ranking emblem maybe?

The only thing that actually matters about the skill is that it's a fantastic connector for smite combos and serves a similar function to impact. Regardless of if you spam skills or not, it's really beneficially for current combos. That and the ATK % boost helps you and everyone who doesn't use the skill. Oh, and the proration reduction.

(This coming from the guy who would love to avoid War Cry and Impact like the plague, but can't, because they're just THAT good.)

 

i already got a saver tag on me tbh.. well i just like to use godspeed since more agi is better for brawl..eh well its just me ^^ already got dat 1k rank support btw ^^

 

also I don't like overkilling aspd on brawl balance is wha i want.

 

No need to complain on shoutbox, I am not hating on godspeed or your build, its your build and you are free to do whatever you want.
I am a facts guy, I stopped giving subjective opinions long ago. Passive skills in toram are nowhere near as efficient as buff/support skills, very few passive skills are actually as efficient because there doesnt exist any buff skill that boosts that respective stat and they are hp/mp boost and crit UP

 

I did politely giving out my opinion. is this what you suppose to reply?

Yes I agree with Mayam, me too, I'm a really fact data based person who calculate pros cons.

We're all free giving opinion, it's up to you if you have different opinion
But it'll be a problem if you talk bad about people JUST BECAUSE they got a different opinion.

 

Just want to chine on this real quick. Since some of your points are bugging me.

IIRC, Flash Blast doesn't require unsheathe attaack to perform it's function as a skill. It will still do plenty of damage regardless of having any unsheathe attack damage added to it.

I'm trying to figure out why you wouldn't suggest that she combine Flash Blast + Light Armor Masteries + Mirror shield so that she has stupid high evasion to combine with Flash Blast to maximize the usage with these skills. The defense is negligable at that point. Especially when physical attacks have to go through both the flee and evasion checks. @_@.

*Thinks on this for a second*

I kind of want to say that in terms of maximizing a character for a party. This methodology is incorrect. Since buff overlap is a thing. I'm just going to let this one go though. Since for random craziness, it is a higher gain.

 

War cry doesnt overlap if someone uses a lower lvl wc when you already used a higher lvl one.

 

Yes FB Don't require unsheathe Attach, but since you got low cdmg and no unsheathe, the damage itself is really low.

I won't suggest to use Flash Blast, Mirror shield etc (as u said) simply because Evasion Flash Blast is unreliable. It can't evade magic attack, deal relatively really low damage, u won't evade when u r not holding the aggro, and u r in super vulnerable position when u use reflex. IMO Evasion is not reliable defense mechanic. you got PDef anyway.

Why DW Use FLash blast? Flash blast for DW enhance left hand power (unsheathe) which benefit all DW Tree skill attack, while it not benefit knuckle tree.

 

lol going through this whole thread is making me confused on what skill to save up for. Can't I have both Warcry and Godspeed (with a side of FB)? Can I have my cake and eat it too?

 

You can add war cry and godspeed.
But not the cake, I ate it already.

 

I clearly said.......

I CLEARLY SAID

SUGGESTION, Not an order....

 

Ooh can you elaborate? I always kinda avoided Quick Aura because I don't know the equation for resulting ASPD. (I thought it was fixed.) Can you maybe give the equation for it?

 

Sorry for the delayed reply.

I'm also sorry forvthe mistaken terminology. I meant that the War Cry's override each other. Making two level 10 War Cry's in one party redundant stat wise. Especially if one kf the members is a one or two handed sword user. Making any passives taken, such as godspeed, a gain for the party overall stat wise. Excluding the beauty that is War Cry skill filling of course.

I'm just going to agree with you on Flash Blast. I got time to use it this weekend and wasn't that impressed. It's not bad damage with 200 cdmg and procs a lot, but I didn't feel the need for it. Probably wouldn't take it on DW either if not for that left hand buff.

As for Evasion and it's reliability. All total negation stats are unreliable. I think we'd need another thread to discuss this though. As the unreliability of Evasion (and flee) needs to be directed towards it's purpose. That purpose being the nullification of single target physical damage, that tenderizes players to die to magical or other forms of burst damage. It's extemely useful in it's purpose, but is not in every situation. As a Brawler however, aggro may as well be stapled to your face everytime a tank isn't around. So mileage will vary from weapon user to weapon user. But yes, Perfect Defense would suit this build better. Though, 70% Evasion is pretty great from my experience.

 

Aspd+500 Aspd+20% At lvl10
Brawler's base aspd can go really high so 700-900 aspd is definitely a given.
It costs 15% HP to use pn non halberd char but you need to use it once every 3min only.

Well with all the fear casting event bosses popping up everywhere more war cry users certainly wont hurt.