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A lil reference for gear.

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Zephyr666, May 22, 2017.

  1. Zephyr666

    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    If yall need a reference for what gears a brawler should use, here ya go:
    Screenshot_2017-05-21-23-58-55.png Ill add my stats in a minute.
    Anyway, here I have:
    Emeldia (NPC) | Imitator | Pillar Golem

    Blood Drain Knife

    Brutal Dragon Armor (Megiston Event) | Jade Raptor

    Half Face Mask | Grass Dragon Yelb | Pumpking

    Time Warp Watch | Eerie Crystal

    Anyway yeah. Rate it, hate it, reference it, change it; I don't care, its there.
     
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    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    And behold, stats.
    Screenshot_2017-05-22-00-09-32.png My defense fell below 0 due to the Half Face Mask, but my FLEE more than makes up for that. Not to mention I have around 30% Evasion Rate and enough ASPD to act before the boss strikes. The VIT was last minute, I plan to add VIT til 100, then go back to CRIT. I have around 40 AMPR, which is nice. 5000 HP is decent, and my MP is great. Anyway, I dont think im reaching STR any time soon, nor do I plan on working with INT or DEX, but I'd just wait and see what they do about Lvl. 4 Martial Skills. There ya have it. A true breaker.
     
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    *Claps*

    The build looks great and the amount of care you've got for Brawler life really shows. I've got a few questions i'd like to ask if your interested in answering them.

    How fast does 6k aspd feel compared too 3k++ , 4k++, and 5k++?

    My last build didn't get much past 650 flee, so I was wondering how it feels with 800+. Reason being is that 650 felt great for most things, and i'm not sure if 800+ is excessive or not. Then again. Can't really have too much flee.

    The idea to go towards VIT right away is an interesting one. It fits well with your build, but I kind of want to know why you prefer the Vit over going towards more crit first. I don't imagine survivability is the only reason.

    Have you considered adding INT for Additional Magic equipment that may come out in the future?

    Also, refine your gear! This +7 ~ +9 refinement is making me cry when I can tell you love this character so much! :biblethump:

    Anyway keep it up man.
     
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    Thanks a bunch! And I love questions, but lemme tackle this one straight away: My refiner sucks lmao, its only at lvl 18 and im really lazy when it comes to anything like that, but trust me, I got it.

    Aspd
    So as for aspd, ill try to go in to detail. Starting from 3k, 3k is amazing right off the bat, but as a Brawler (or Magic Device user since their auto attack is greatly underestimated) you can feel a bit of lag in motion speed, especially with skills like Heavy Smash and Bash. 4k fixes all that up, but you can feel a slowness in auto attack. I had 4k at some point when I switched to guardian, and it was awful when battling quick bosses such as Zolban or Goovua. 5k was really hitting home on that aspect of things. I recommend that most brawlers aim for at least 4.5k to 5.5k, as it will benefit them a lot. 6k made battles a lot more polished, and quick (especially when paired with a hefty amount of AMPR. You go in, get a few hits, back out and you're done. Its extremely fun having this much ASPD and I surprisingly never get bored with this character. Jumping from 6k aspd back to 3k aspd is almost alien to me, as switching around aspd values are really noticeably bad.

    Flee.
    Ive always really had 600 FLEE before the mask. You know that one guy on the forums that can dodge most red aoe attacks? 800 FLEE starts to surface that. I never really thought of being able to dodge such powerful moves, but I knew I made the right choice when I dodged Zolbans linear one shot kill and imitators surprise instant kill. When it comes to flee, I agree, you can never have too much FLEE because the bosses will only start getting harder, and even 1000 FLEE doesn't cut it half the time, but thats something ill let time tell.

    VIT
    So when I switched my Forehead Guard for Half Face Mask, my FLEE took my higher, but my HP was holding me back a lot more than I first anticipated. I always opposed VIT, but I felt as if 125 is a great level to start adding it. Also crit doesnt mean as much to me as survivability does. A drop from 17% crit to 13% crit makes me wonder why Im even using crit but, honestly, Ive been considering Assasin gear for some time (Catch 22; if i choose to get Assasin garb, im gonna have to add more VIT anyway lmao) Although, I really wanna wait and see if the devs make an aspd body gear for brawlers (kinda like they did BB Garb)

    Now this is a weird one
    Additional Attack
    Im only gonna focus on Magic, cause Additional Physical sucks for brawlers.
    I feel as if damage shouldn't really come from normal attacks, but then again, Rampage, indicates good use for normal attacks. Even in Iruna, monks made good use of Additional Attack (Autoskill) but I digress. To answer your question, Id rather stick to my aspd, physical build rather than expanding my limits before LVL 4 Martial. But now im torn. My high aspd + high matk growth on knucks makes it seem like the devs wanted it that way. But still, i wanna wait for lvl 4 skills.

    Anyway yeah, im always revising my build to see what works. Thanks for taking interest! Shoot me follow up questions if you have any.
     
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  5. Xiavu

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    This maybe a noob question but, y not use td dagger and praeotor suit? With halb skill it might kick up to 7k aspd? (just rough approx since I dunno if it will reach that far)
     
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    I have a few questions too:
    1. How did you get 2 slotters? Craft like a lunatic at NPC?
    2. How is your hit rate? I'm almost at the same stats less the VITs, missing NM mode bosses like crazy
    3. Did you take maxed HP and MP skills?
     
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    TD has additional physical attack, which breaks down mt proration, and the halberd skill is too sp costly
     
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    1. They held two 2s chance up on treasure box and i got lucky on both of em
    2. Hahah NM is realllly bad for me in terms of accuracy, but with the amount of attacks I dish out, it shouldnt matter too much. This will be fixed later
    3. Yep
     
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    I am at 900 FLEE and just got raped by Normal difficulty Pillar Golem. Not sure how you're managing to survive stuff...
     
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    Pillar Golems attacks are pretty accurate. Im able to solo every boss (except zolban, scrader and nurethoth (and imitator)) without revs, so i must be doing something right I guess...
    Bosses like BKOD and Aranea require lots of manual dodging and breaking, if thats what you're getting at.
     
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    Thanks, will try some other boss than PG first. By the way, that event chest gave 2s gear, or 2s piercers? Must have been before I started playing, have no clue of that ebent at all
     
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    The event was actually pretty recent. Less than a week ago. I recommend you try fighting cerberus without revs. My plan for cerberus is to fight using only triple kick (no combo), all of his auto attacks miss me, and his red aoes are slow. Dont break otherwise you'll take huge damage. After a minute or 2, his markings should turn white. Now, switch to Shell Break, to match his new defense value. There is a really accurate headbutt attack that will always hit. Usually, i let my self get hit by the fractional attacks (as they are quick and weak) and I break when he consecutively auto attacks (even if i dont break, i dodge most of them) the circular aoes must be dodged. Thank you and good luck!
     
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    Does it mean u use dagger passive skills? Any chance to see the skill set?
     
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    I dont feel like showing the whole set is necessary (plus thats a lot of screenshots..) but I only use hidden arm lv 1. Im planning to get hidden arm to lvl 5, and get the second skill to lv 10, because, the actual proc is all i care about.
     
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    So, technically knucks deal out phy damage while dagger is matk? if u don't want too many screenies, I suggest a snippet of char select menu so that we can see all the sp allocated at each skill tree.(it may open up a ton of question and request over it but mystery is the main part of discovery) since looking up on speculation and comparison we may have a rough idea of the actual skill set you have.:rolleyes:
     
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    i think that we brawlers dont need a specific gears like other builds( fus etc..)
    we brawls can depend with our own style some ppls prefer atk than speed some ppl prefer speed so yep
    and me as a brawl 2k aspd is good enough for me since i can still do alot of dmg with my combos
    we can do dps type we can do solo type welp its up to our playstyle
    btw that 2s e-e just wow
     
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    Someone get this man to 4k aspd. He needs to feel the wind in his fist.

    I agree though, we haven't found a perfect build or anything yet. Probably won't for a long while, since we have so many more options (stat and skill wise) than most other weapons.
     
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    I agree, very versatile. Im just one example of what you can do though.
     
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    I feel like the only reason they made strong skills stronger, like rampage and snipe, is to prep for when Deathblow comes out. Who knows tho.
     
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    Already felt it i just wanna be unique since im doing my own build.. Every character i made from my dual ,halberd and now my brawler. I want them to see the dmg output that the brawlers can do not just a mere normal atks or aspd my target is to reclaim the "fu" titles and beat all the fus. Thats all thank you..


    From a guy who never like fu builds
     
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    I didn't play iruna that much so I don't know what deathblow is, mind telling?
     
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    I don't play Irina myself but past experience define deathblow as a "super killer move", "single most op skill", "999,999,999 damage punch", "super serious saitama punch". Meh, take your pick.(it makes me wonder if bald players will run rampant as bad as Kirito when the final tier comes out):p
     

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