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About Knuckle/MD

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Raigart, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Raigart

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    Hi just wanna ask if Knuckle/MD is legit items for Mage farmers? I've read that Knuckle/MD decreases ATK by 25%. Does it mean it decreases Matk as well or just the physical atk only? thanks :D
     
  2. mayam

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    Knuckles main with md sub you only get 15% ATK reduction not MATK.
    So yep you can still use them for farming instead of MD main. In fact it is better than MD main as knuckles get 4matk/int too and have higher pot and weapon atk than MD.

    Though the mentality of people thinking that "if its a non MD user its not a stormer" is still strong so you need to try to explain a lot of people before u can do regular farming :v
     
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    Its better to use md as main, with knucks as main u lose out on around 90matk
     
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    But you get the high base stability of knuckles in return :rolleyes:; coming at the discussion again: stab vs base (m)atk :p
     
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    Only 10% more stab:p
     
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    Using knucks-main + md sub on farming nc, within 2mins = auto kick. <-- speaking from experience
     
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    Yeah, so from the social experience it definitely would be better to go md :rolleyes:
     
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    i had to spent some spina to buy some good md for farming it. cause hell yea, they all think " what is dis guy doing here? kicking and punching our precious roars. lets kik em out so he cant spread cancer" lul
     
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    weapon atk and mastery for knuckles raises only atk, not matk :p
    don't forget that when comparing pot and that stuff.

    also many MDs have defensive stats, while knuckles usually don't.
    MDs have 6m range for normal attacks, knuckles have 2m.
     
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    Work it in slowly. Start MD as main then after 15 minutes or so then switch to knucks main and md as sub. And watch them all wonder how you did it xD
     
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    but you still gonna be kicked out
     
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    No one noticed when I did it o_O maybe it just depends on the pt you're in ahaha.
     
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    or just how salty and foolish pt leader is
     
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    or maybe a botter. there are a lot of them nowadays.
     
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    Not really.
    Knuckles weapon attack is higher so same refine and same stats i117m7 knuckles main md sub will have higher matk.
     
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    Have u checked around about the same atk with both and seen the matk diffirence?
     
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    Yep checked it. You are possibly losing matk becuase magic mastery doesnt work for knux main :v
     
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    But md still gives more matk as main because of magic mastery, why would u want less matk and a chance to be kicked?
     
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    The difference in weapon atk of ice md and ice knux is 20 when refined the difference becomes even more.
    Not to mention knux are higher pot so the chance to make better stats exists.
    Martial mastery adds matk too but idk if its the same as the matk from magic mastery.
    So it still depends on how you build. People make seperate char for luck mage where their total int is lower at that time weapon with higher weapon atk will win.
     
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    Ill test later on the refine side of things
     

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