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Additional equip?

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Akashi_RK, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. Akashi_RK

    Akashi_RK Member

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    What is a good additional equip for knuckles? I know there isn't much. And I'm running knuckle/dagger with agi <dex

    I see cat tail as an option but are there any others?
     
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    Shaved ice for crit rate, ninja hat for atk
     
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    If you're not too high level yet, I'd scrap and redo.

    Dex is a terrible trade off for knuckles. you get 1 atk for 2 points, some hit and attack speed. And since you're putting points to dex, you're going to need to get crit from gear and skills. Which means you have less room for Maxing out your MP pool and Attack. We know Hit doesn't really work well as a stat at higher difficulties, and the attack speed/cspd is minor.

    Assuming you're making a DPS knuck, you should prioritize Agi -> Str/crit/Vit

    Knuckles get their pool of base damage from mainly these sources ->

    1. Agi
    2. Weapon with High Refine
    3. Skills and passives (Kairiki, WarCry, Passives)
    4. Xtas, Additional, and Ring

    At current cap, you'll get approximately 90 base damage from Adding to Dex if you go full Agi > Dex.

    Since we're talking about Additional gear, I'll break it down to you in those terms. I'm going to assign stat values to your top choices.

    1. Ninja Hat (30%) -> At full agi, you're getting about 70 base damage, 4.5 Crit Damage, some LRD and some crit (I'm going to negate the last two.
    70 base damage has a en equivalent stat value of 140 (2 dex per 1 attack), (4.5 CD = 22.5 Stat value) Ninja hat therefore approximates to about 165 stat points.

    2. But since you're going full Dex, you'll need CRIT. The best crit item on the market is shaved ice hat.
    20 crit and 3 CD (2%) has a value of
    (20 x 3.4) + (3x5) -> 68 + 15 -> 83 Stat point

    3. Another option is Tyrant Hat which gives 6% Damage, depending on your refine and everything, that'll approximate to about 70Dmg -> about 140 stat point.

    You can still make up your crit by getting Berserker at level 150, but you'll be sacrificing a ton of stability and defense. Knuckles already have low damage, and we are close quarters so this is dangerous.
     
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    Thank you I should've been more clear on the stat build XD but it's agi>dex>crt And I'm mostly going for like a semi dps Tanky kind of thing. I was just looking for a replacement for my eyepatch because it was a placeholder
     

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    I have to agree with this. I made a full agi->dex brawler and converted a full str>agi one. With the same gear+skillset, the DPS almost balanced out so if i had gone Agi->Str, then it would be stronger than both lol.
     
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    Gotcha. Well it seems you're deep into being a dagger knuck, but if you have the option to redo it, go for shield knuck for Semi tank or MD knuck for best DPS

    But yeah, farm the mats for a Ninja Hat (30%) with a slot or buy it on CB. That'll be your best damage bet.

    It seems as if you have perfect crit, so no need for shaved hat.
     
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    Thanks I have another question I'm looking over at the CB and I see ATK UP(AGI2%) And ATK UP(AGI30%) What's the difference?
     
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    2% -> 2% of Agi turns into ATK -> (255 X .02)
    3% -> (255 x .30)

    This is assuming max Agi of course. Can be replaced with any AGI value.


    Also, how much MP do you have? Knuckles have Terrible Ampr and Shellbreak becomes unreliable when you party with snipers.
     
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    About 1.1k MP but my dodge is like 800 and evasion rate is like 45% so I can rely on chakra
     
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    Do you have decoy shot?
     
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    No but I thought of having that skill but it takes too much skill points at this point for me. And if the boss moves the decoy would be useless.....
     
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    Also im using dagger for the passive for extra hits
     
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    That dagger passive for extra hits doesn't count towards AMPR, it's just extra damage. I wish this were the case though, because I would be getting a ton of ampr from extra hits (Aggravate, Additional Melee, Hidden Arm, Decoy)

    Mail breaker procs sometimes, but thats double your ampr about 20% of the time -> still not an impressive gain.

    If the boss uses spikes, how are you going to ampr without decoy? My dagger build uses 20sp to put into 5 points decoy shot (about 22 seconds) When I use it with Kairiki, I can blast off about 1m of damage before it expires (with proration and assuming the boss doesnt move very much)
     

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