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AMPR as Knuckles

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by ChrisZle, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. ChrisZle

    ChrisZle Well-Known Member

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    So.. can anyone show me how much AMPR you Knucks main have?

    Because for DW, we can reach 200 AMPR..

    I did a bit of calculation, and one way to reach 100 AMPR at least, is by relying on Kairiki and Shukuchi. Was able to reach 50 with:
    10 Base
    20 from 2k MP
    15 Avatar
    5 from Passive

    so..
    25 Shukuchi
    25 Kairiki
    10 from Tapir
    6 Daniela
    That's 116. But Kairiki's a bit of a problem. So removing it would be "better.. then I'll be back to 91.
    Magic Absorption would be 97. So another Avatar that would add at least 3 would get me to 100 without Kairiki.

    SDM's an option, Grecia and Jelia too could work.

    PS: I'm a DW for 6 months already.. so.. yeah, loved Knuckles before shifting to DW.
     
  2. PauPauPau

    PauPauPau Well-Known Member

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    you can get a max of 30 ampr (max is +10 for one avatar. head, top and bot) from avatar if youre extremely rich and lucky.
     
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    Dont forget chakra +15ampr(?)
     
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    Silver roar. get all of them
     
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    mind to share the purpose of this question?
    Brawler and DW is different build, I don’t see a reason for the comparison.
     
  6. ChrisZle

    ChrisZle Well-Known Member

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    From a DW perspective of having high AMPR, about 150-200, I'm accustomed to in using high MP spamming combos.

    That's why, the idea I'm formulating would be non-Save combo, using the same principle I have with DW. 100 Stability, 130 Crit and 50% Motion Speed.

    Anyways, I've already seen different routes that I could take already so.. yeah, this thread can die now :)
     
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    and we all know that will never happen:rolleyes:
     
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    Chakra
    disappears after one hit by any attack, so it is not very useful
     
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    Thread: and you can go die as well
     
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  10. Azin.

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    we cant never compare dw ampr with other class tbh dw has high ground when it comes to ampr all of ampr source has *2 in it so we cant compare any class on dw when it comes on ampr

    my knux currently have 54 ampr without any buffs or avas with high motion speed ( i have 30% motion speed) i can do 3-4 auto atk in a lil bit of time so i can regain my mp also we got shell break that give us 400mp when successfully inflicted the armor break which is noice

    u can also use quick draw if u want to

    10 base
    1.8k mp =18
    5=ems
    16=tapir and deniala
    5=aggravate
    54 ampr over all..
    i dont recommend chakra since it has charge time and the buff will be removed when u got hit
     
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  11. ChrisZle

    ChrisZle Well-Known Member

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    True. DW has X2 on all sources except Rampage.

    Anyways..
    10 Base
    2k MP
    16 Tapir/Deniala
    5 Aggravate
    EMS 5
    ..
    Shukuchi helps, that's 25 AMPR
    Magic Absorption Stone is 6 more

    That's 85. Avatars are relatively "easy" to get, so 100 isn't that impossible. Quick Draw helps too depending on situation. Shell Break can only be activated once every 10 seconds at least on a chance, but from my experience it can't trigger the Armor Break back to back within 10seconds due to Resistances and that's what you need to get the MP back.

    Good thing about SB is tht you can auto-cancel with it so that helps too.
     
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    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    shuckuchi is good but it will take alot of sp id rather focus on speed than this since u need to back up then atk back up and atk to get that ampr so yeah i wont recommend shukuchi on brawler as an ampr source
     
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    Yeah but.. I've gotten used to it as a DW that's why it's relatively natural for me to use it :)
     
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    If ur a dagger brawler
    Mail Breaker have 30% activation chance to double ur ampr.
    Which means if like u said without kairiki its 97 ampr, with stone and such
    Ur actually able to do 194 ampr
    Eventho its stated 30%
    But it triggers a lot, really.
     
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    Mail breaker is only 10% it's not very good
     
  16. Miushiro

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    Triggers most of the time for me and thanks for the correction
    Using it by side of shell break are pretty good mp recovery over time
    By average of 6mp per 10 sec
    I m quite a spammer but I'll always keep my mp >1k at all time, and to have that from 0 bar to full gage of 10mp, only takes up 9 seconds.
    Having lvl10 hidden arm strgem and lvl10 intensive knife with lvl10 mail breaker
    Most of u won't say it worth it.
    But I would have to disagree since
    +75 CRT, +100% ampr is very good, especially when hidden arm triggers 100% of time. That leaves u with only 10% of luck? Its still better than chakra which dispels after hit, or kairiki that burn EB, not quick draw that triggers when u use skills ht consume mp.
     
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    Mail breaker is interesting to because anybody who uses it already has crit 100 and +100% ampr at a 10% activation is equal to +10 ampr (at 100ampr) so it's not super efficent
     
  18. Miushiro

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    I don't have 100 CRT, and +100% ampreans it doubles ur ampr.
    I don't have 100 CRT, neither will I balance it to 100 since 85 is enuf already tbh except if u fight crit resist boss, which I see accuracy is better here
    Welp different person different viewpoints
     

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