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Bandage eyepatch vs. Curled horn

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Baotran, Aug 8, 2016.

  1. Baotran

    Baotran Active Member

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    which one will be the best gear for Mage dps (dex is 2nd stat),anyone??
     
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    Well, i will choose B.Eye
     
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    Bandage Eyepatch
     
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    I think curled is better for more stab
     
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    Bandage eyepatch
     
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    Mages don't need stab, unlike other classes you don't have 1 hit that counts (a 10k snipe - 100k snipe) makes all the difference
    For a mage you have 6 ticks it can range to 8k-10k per tick it'll just balance itself out
     
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  9. Baotran

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    Well ,everyone 's choosing bandage ^^..well off to buy one
     
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    NPC Curled Horns w/Ancient Empress guarantee you to hit 8% better storm damage all the time, just with some less points in MATK that hardly make any big difference. I'm surprised to see how many think 25~ MATK is more important than 8% Stab. I for sure know that what's shown in the stat screen isn't everything that counts.

    Good luck with those sudden low Storm ticks to everyone with Bandage Eyepatches. ;)
    All weapons benefit from Stability %, that's how the game mechanics are.
     
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    10% stability isnt really much imo compared to bandage, but then again full matk isnt always the best for dps, if u deal 10k dmg and with 60%stab lowest is 6k but with 10%+ its 7k, but u may not always hit the lowest and some hits the lowest more than others, but between these 2 i prefer bandage because i never normally hit the lowest a lot
     
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    Solo GK from start to finish Dagger Mage self proration explaining the increase in storm dmg
    using eyepatch bandage
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    I'll take my chances with the sudden low tick storms ;)
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    I told that curled is better ty @Precaria
     
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    For real results it is needed a test with the same equipment & same combo on a fully damage-dropped boss, with the only difference being the C.Horns & the B.Eyepatch. Other than that, any damage shown has no significance towards the comparison.
     
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    I'm basing it on end gear, You can compare only the two add gears all you want but people won't use this 2 adds with boss drop gears their gonna use it with full int% matk% gear and you can test them out in a controlled enviroment all you want too but that exact controlled state won't happen in battle
    You may prove that curled horns can win but if it's in a precisely controlled environment that will rarely happen in real boss battle scenarios it's pointless
    If curled horns can't show it's better out in the field where almost all the players using this will actually do not it a controlled environment then it loses

    I've been using eyepatch bandage since update and i never seen your so called "sudden dmg drop"
     
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    Eh.. the opposite actually. The results of a controlled environment determine the average results over any other scenarios. You can see this in real life too. That's the purpose of making a clean test. To get the most precise result in every case.

    Do you seriously think having having 2025 matk with 8% lower peaks is better than having 2000 without reaching those low peaks? Logic please.. If you're not open to a clean testing then you won't get a clean result. I'm open for it anytime.
     
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    Stay calm guys, everyone has their own opinions. Im really appreciated for all the idea you guys are sharing. I will try to test both, to see which one will be the best for "my" Mage ^^...Mage's life lol
     
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    The pics are so long that I expected something at the end like comment trolls on fb
     
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    Ok so test environment would be
    Staff 89@ non stat non refine no arm no ring no sub
    255 int 19dex
    no combo just storm
    test on boss colon, 1 shot kill with 1 storm tick so no proration present
    record 50-100 ticks and take the average dmg
    if it sounds good and your satisfied with it i can go and farm for dye and come back with the result
     
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    Staff without equipment is good.
    255 INT good, but 32 DEX here, sorry I'll have 13-15 more matk. :(
    Also, do you have Magic Mastery or Magic UP?
    Boss Colon is not good, we can't 1-storm-kill it cleanly, proration will affect the 2nd player to hit the storm.
    Record 50-100 ticks not necessary, the difference of stability between gears is 8%, so 8 storms are enough. 8 x 6 =48 ticks.

    Boss needs to be one that doesn't move so there's no risk to miss storm ticks. Either Yelb or DG will do and someone wearing Magician's Ring needs to spam Impact on the boss before we storm so it's magic resistance is fully dropped and our storms don't vary anymore due to proration.
     
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