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Battle Mage (Staff + MD)

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Toramwasmyidea, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    Its me again here to share my lame mage build. i already quit toram, but wanted share it anyway. i made it around April-May when messing around with Md an knucks. There were already dagger mages, arrow mages & shield mages at that point so i wanted to try a new breaker mage. its like lvl92 cos im lazy af.
    This is like Harry potter on steroids
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    •you basicly gona punch an kick stuff alot using martial skills to break flinch tumble bosses, shell break to regain mp having almost infinity mp means yu dont have to mp charge. yu create your own proration increasing storms damage alot.
    •This mage creates alot of agro so your the front line in battles sometimes-i tested against @Precaria 's Angelus mage before he quit and im able to hold aggro quite easily.


    MAIN STAT
    FULL INTELLECTUAL INT
    ●SECOUNDARY STAT
    DEX (Agi/Vit/Str also viable)

    ■SKILLS
    Magic tree
    magic arrow lvl10
    javeline lvl5
    lance lvl5
    impact lvl10
    magic wall lvl10
    magic blast lvl5
    stormy storm lvl10
    magic mastery lvl10
    mp charge lvl10
    chain cast lvl1~10 * dont have to get it
    Martial Tree
    smash lvl5
    bash lvl5
    shellbreak lvl10
    heavy smash lvl1
    sonic wave lvl5
    Priest Tree
    bless lvl10
    holy fist of da lawd lvl1
    Battle Tree
    magic attack up lvl10
    magic concentrate watever its called lmao lvl5-10
    Survival Tree
    safe rest lvl5
    hp boost lvl10
    *short rest lvl5
    *mp boost lvl10 (*dont have to get it if mp is not a problem for yu )

    *your gona have some sp left over you can spend on heavy armour mastery or watevs


    GEARS
    >staff: i7 m7 i11 or elemental staffs
    > sub weapon: any tinkerbell looking magic device
    >armour: i7 m7
    >Addition gear: Curled horns npc crafted
    or forhead protector
    >talisman ring: philosopher ring

    ☆Combos
    1MP
    ●sonicwave=shellbreak(save)=holyfist(consec)=impact(consec)=storm(smite)=smash(swift)
    *this combo is tweakable
    ●magicarrow=heavysmash(save)=smash(consec)=magicwall(smite)=impact(consec)=storm(smite)=shellbreak(consec)

    ●magicarrow=shellbreak(save)=smash(swift)=holyfist(consec)=impact(consec)=storm(smite)=sonic wave(consec)

    ●sonic wave=impact(save)=storm(smite)=shell break(consec)


    2MP-4MP
    ●impact=storm(smite)=shellbreak(save)=smash(swift)=magic wall(smite)=holy fist(consec)

    ●magicwall=heavysmash(save)=smash(consec)=shellbreak(consec)=storm(smite)=impact(consec)


    * this mage suffers from low hit rate on high evade dodge bosses just like dagger an arrow mages, so use ur combos wisely depending on the boss*
    Dank video of my mage

    i dont even have toram installed lmao i might make a video idk
     
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  2. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    BORED OF UR LIFE? WELL YOUR MAGE CAN TRANSFORM.
    Im talking magic device mage.
    combos are quick an spammable. i tested on flare volg i hit a 35k Impact with shitty gears.
    - equip magic device as main weapon
    >combos
    ●smash--heavysmash(save)--holy fist (consec)--impact(smite)--storm(smite)--sonic wave(consec)
    ● sonic wave--shell break(save)--holy fist(swift)--impact(smite)-smash(consec)
     
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  3. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    MD sub weapon lowers atk by 15%, gear stats have no effect.
    the MD bonus effects will not be applied because you get the staff bonus (main weapon takes priority).
    this combination will just make you weaker,
    any dagger is better than this :p
     
  4. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    bro if u were smart enough to read it you would notice i dont use martial skills for damage :fail:...
    doesnt matter if theres a 15% attack reduction mages uses Matk sherlock, magic device as sub is there because 25% increase in martial proc skills. mostly for shell break chance to inflict.
    and of course md gear stats dont effect you they not supposed to:cmonbruh:.

    also please explain how this makes me weaker? ive outdpsed dagger mages already
     
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    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    not always :p
    do you have proof?
    someone proofed me that it doesn't.o_O
    you loose 15% atk. that does affect tap damage for breaking by a small amount.
    daggers don't reduce atk or matk and some of them even increase matk, so with the same set-up they should deal more damage.
     
  6. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    so yu honestly gona knitpick about 15% off ur tap damage? dude seriously...

    if u want proof go an use a brawler with shell break and go to warmonger/scrader whatever boss and test with / with no magic device in sub. shell break procs much more, so does smash and sonic.
    lets make something clear shall we? if magic device is tied to martial skills, why would it only reduce ur atk by 15% in sub it must give a purpose to make it logical to equip it as a sub. just like knuckles grant proc/damage bonus. arrows allow shot skills.
    i been using this build for half a year already i dont need ur friends proofo_O.

    this build wasnt made to have more matk then dagger mages either:fail:..


    any more logical statements?
     
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    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    you said that you have out-DPSed dagger mages, so something must be higher :p
    (self poration doesn't count, they have it too)
    because it gives all the MD bonus effects for magic skills (just not with staff)
    i have a mage with smash and wave now, so i can finally test it myself. last time i didn't have martial skills, so i asked someone else...
    it's also staff damage, but i only nitpick because there is no compensation.
    i did extensive research about MDs when i made a Magic Swordsman. so i have enough backup to argue like this :p
    the only thing i couldn't research myself was martial skills, so i had to ask someone for it.
    but now i can, so i will finish it.
    if it's true i will draw my hat for you =(^.^)=
     
  8. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    I use to say that staff + md is kinda redundant, but with the purpose of having 25% increased in martial skills process rate without the matk decrease while using knux, then I think this is a viable option. ^_^
     
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    tests finished - 200 casts of bash and sonic wave, with knuckles, with MD and without weapons.
    the basic proc rate is 50%.
    knuckles main and sub have 100% proc and also increased damage.
    MD main and sub has the same result as no weapon: 50% proc, normal damage.

    MDs only affect magic skills.
    you loose 15% atk for nothing :p
     
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  10. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    It seems he doesn't mind the -15%atk since he's only using physical skills to prorate the smited magic skills. On the other hand if he will use knux as sub then there is a -15%matk penalty. ^_^
     
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    but there is no benefit in exchange for the 15%atk, so any dagger would be better.
     
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    Woooooooo two elites argueing I will stay tuned :p:D
     
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    I thought basic proc rate is 25% not 50%?
     
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    25% base
    50% base with lvl10
    100% knux primary or secondary lvl10
    ?
     
  15. RyeUshio

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    The benefit for him would be the added 25% process rate from md. ^_^
     
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    which doesn't exist.
    proc rate with MD is the same as without MD.
    only knuckles increase it.

    i know it was in Mugami's thread, but all of the MD related information has been proven incorrect. :p
     
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    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    There is truth to it. Md was always been for magical brawlers. He is not showing us a theory build but something he have use many months now. ^_^
     
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    then prove it.:cool:
    bash and sonic wave do not gain any bonus from MDs.
     
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    We just gonna need to wait for him to install toram again for proof. I ain't messing my brawler nor my farm mage just to test this. ^_^
     
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