Berserk OR Impact

Just want to have a discussion on this both skill before Skill Reset Expiry
Let start some explanation for both skill

Berserk LVL10
MP Cost: 500
Total SP Consume : At least 25 SP
Buff Effect:
- Duration: 10 seconds
- Attack Speed +100% and +1000
- Critical Rate +25 (level 10)
- Increases your auto attacks' Skill Multiplier by 1 (The auto attack's Skill Multiplier boost only applies to the main hand of Dual Swords)
- DEF -90%; MDEF -90%
- Stability -50%

Pro
1. Good Mana Bank
- Berserk is a 5MP mana bank and In martial Skill tree, only Chariot need 5MP the rest only 4MP below, so without IMPACT also can form a good combo list

2. Warcry
- Willing or not, when you start choose Berserk you already confirm will get the LVL5 warcry. Compare to IMPACT 22SP come with only 1 useful skill, additional 3SP will give you 2 useful skill

3. High ASPD and Motion
- For AGI build Knuc, with LVL10 Berserk will give you at least 1800 above ASPD (also equal to 10% Motion Speed), with the High ASPD and High Motion help on balance the proration ( which mean more skill spamming ) and reduce the time consume from long combo.

4. +25 Critical
- Nowaday is not difficult to get 100% CRI just with Gear only, but Toram not stupid they implement CRI resistant. Didn't know how much it's resist but +25 CR for sure have some help with it.

Con
1. 10 Second only
- 10 second is just enough only to complete the combo when berserk use as Mana bank

2. -50% Stability
- This is the biggest problem when having berserk, Most of the Knuc have 80-90% stability, mean the output damage is between 80-100% of Full damage,
with -50% Stability, the output damage will become between 30%-100%. Increase DEX or STR may help to boost the Stability but it's still huge gap need to cover, below is the example for stability change.

Example Chariot 100% damage is 300K
Stability% Chariot
30 >> 90,000
35 >> 105,000
40 >> 120,000
45 >> 135,000
50 >> 150,000
55 >> 165,000
60 >> 180,000
65 >> 195,000
70 >> 210,000
75 >> 225,000
80 >> 240,000
85 >> 255,000
90 >> 270,000
95 >> 285,000
100 >> 300,000

From list above, if you using Mad Palm (80% Stability), when using Berserk you chariot damage is between 90K - 300K.
From another way of calculation, between 30-100 have 70 possibility, which mean in 70 times Chariot you may have 1 times get Full Damages.


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Magic: Impact LVL7
MP Cost: 200
Total SP Consume : At least 22 SP
Element: Neutral
Buff Effect:
- Duration: Until a skill is used
- The next skill has its MP Cost divided by half and rounded up to the nearest multiple of 100 (e.g. 300/2 = 150 -> 200 MP; 600/2 = 300 -> 300 MP)
- While this buff is active, the Skill Multiplier and Tumble chance of this skill are decreased and the specific weapon bonuses are disabled
- Ailment: Tumble ( Base Ailment Chance: 50% )

Pro
MP Cost Divided Half
- As everyone know, IMPACT is best for any build use, DPS, Support, Tank and etc.
- half the mana cost make the combo more flexible, capable to make 2 Smit combo.

Tumble
- Tumble is limited, other than sonic blow, impact is only the other choice ( ignore power shot =.=" )
- 50% is not higher, but is worth for a try.

Con
Inefficiency SP arrangement
- Impact require 22SP to get 0 second cast, compare to berserk 25SP get 2 useful skill, IMPACT 22SP get only 1 useful skill.

AOE
- Impact is AOE skill, thus when IMPACT use on Mini Boss it's may lure unnecessary mob nearby, this become very annoying when the IMPACT is use by not MATK build because of Low Damage.

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This is not a sharing post or information post, it's just me want someone here guide or advise me which one I should have.

 

Impact. Berserk should never be on your radar if you arent using a sword

 

I'd advise to never use berserk on any build that's not a swordies -50% stab is just way too much. I'd take impact and invest in some ampr

 

Impact , spend another 1sp for finale to get nice smited combo ender

 

Purposely let finale cancel automatically due to not enough mana?

 

Yep

 

Will this cause aggro steal?

 

Its not hit enemy not even casted
So i think its generate 0 aggro (finale)

 

It'd generate no aggro but itditmake more sense to just use idk any of the other martial skills you have. Smash, Holy Fist or Kick. All that's necessary and a better place to spend that 1 sp. If youre scared of aggro use sneak attack and -Aggro gears

 

Berserk, Because crit resist in any future boss will make all your impacted skills miss anyway.

So what if you have less stability? 40% of damage is better than 0% of dmg.

 

You do realize how stupid you sound.
You essentially just told a guy "dont matter make a mage because you won't hit anyways"

 

@AliceYvne wht is ur stat build

 

Knuckle supposedly play in close range right ? Cancel last combo even tho just 1 sec can be life saver, i've been use it in my 2h combo against commander golem .
it save me many time from dead against fast red/blue AOE.
I think its worth spend just 1 sp to that skill

 

Whereas on knockles you could just... flinch them with a 100% proc rate.

 

Yeah try that on anti-flinch enemy
And i been thinking this
You wanna waste 22sp for "half my next skill mp cost"skill but dont wanna waste another 1sp for "shorten my combo" skill xD

 

Just get a kick star gem or something thats close ranged if you want a combo ender

Kick is like 300-400k

 

Agi 255
Vit 50
Dex 40
Cri 79

Martial Skill
Other than chakra,Tkick, Hsmash, Eb, the rest all is LVl10

Knuc is AGI7%11CR16ASPD16% + Marchita
Armor is AGi7%10CR16ASPD16% + Ornlark
Additional is Cat Tail + Candela + Grass
Special is Speed3 + Goovua + Bexiz

Stargem
Kick LVL10
Assault LVL10
First Aid LVL10
Play Dead LVL10
Hidden Arm LVL10
Throw Dagger LVl10
Protection LVL10
Provoke LVL10
Holy Fist LVL1

 

Not really scared of aggro, sometime do act as a semi tank, I just afraid when I use mana potion, the Finale will cast it once I use any combo ender with finale.

 

I have...LVl10 Kick XD, not really like kick because it’s require a spinning before release a kick, but sometime I do use it before Chariot