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Best support skill: Gloria, protection, aegis or sanctuary?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by iceTRAP, Dec 14, 2016.

  1. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Astron in Road to another World attacks with magic damage.
    when my character had unremodelled armor, with 300 mdef he took 200 damage.
    when i changed it to heavy armor, the mdef went up to 400 and he took only 100 damage.

    and another one:
    Gold Jelly in Aulada also attacks with magic.
    casting Aegis Lv10 reduced the damage from 50 to 25 per hit.
    casting Gloria reduced the damage to 1.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    You are just testing with regular mobs test with bosses instead.
     
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    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    same with bosses.
    Demon Gate's magic does 100 less damage if you have 100 more mdef.
    red zones are just super strong and some special attacks also have extra effects.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I tested again for ya.
    Became naked(no def gear and 70def) gs did 357,428 dmg
    Equipped all gears (683 def) gs did 179,215 dmg
    Now clearly 600 is more than 428 so why couldnt i see 1dmg :rolleyes:
    The direct subtraction wont work on boss atks every single build would be using gloria if that was the case.
    Like i said early the system starts to filter reduction once it exceeds 50% as shown in my test.
     
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    i said some attacks have extra effects :p
    Golden Skeleton could have physical pierce.
    try Dark Mushroom, it doesn't have extra effects.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Sorry to break it for you but i tested at various places and i can never experience direct subtraction by def.
    No matter if mob or boss i cant see direct subtraction occuring with increase in def.
    Def/mdef is still the worst way to reduce dmg in this game.
    You saw 1dmg is only possible if you were using melee barrier stat from mad doc.
    Please show me ss/video to prove that it indeed is direct subtraction ^^.
     
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    tested against red jelly now.
    looks like 10 points reduce damage by 1 (roughly).
    it's probably a % calculation...
    need to do more research. when i tested the magic swordsman, i tried normal and heavy armor to see what's better and the 100mdef difference it had was directly noticeable.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    There are very few mobs/bosses that have high stability in their dmg sometimes change on 100def is not even noticeable if the dmg keeps changing so much.
    I still remember to this day when refine used to increase def/mdef just like weapon it could have worked that way at that time
    The resistance of protection/aegis could be 50% back then too
    But right now resistance >>> def in terms of reduction of dmg. :)
     
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    alright, the next research project is def and mdef =(^.^)=
     
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    if you are desperate for support rank, just use bless in your combos. Clearly for me, neither four of them are the best support skills
     
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    Isn't guardian like the best thing ever for support tanks now a days?
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Hmm? Then what is the best support skill in your opinion? :rolleyes:
     
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    I think it's Warcry for him~ :cool:
     
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    The best support is a good offence, obviously snipe tho there are diffirent skills that hits higher than snipe
     
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    He Clearly has never seen the full power of sanctuary it seem :p
     
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    Isn't heavy smash stronger then snipe?? :eek::rolleyes:
     
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    It is :p by like 100k
     
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    What about Heavy Smash ánd Snipe ?? :D:p
     
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    Would kinda be weak, even tk does abit more than snipe i think
     
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    Then snipe is not the best support ;-;
     

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