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Bow vs Bowgun, which is better?

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by Ramlethal, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Ramlethal

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    The title says it all, I'm conflicted between choosing a bow gun or a bow to main.

    What are advantages and disadvantages of each class? What are their pros and cons, and overall results? Which is better? Strength or dexterity? How does it affect each weapon?
     
  2. kariin

    kariin Patience is a Virtue Staff Member MODERATOR Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor Epic Member

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    bow is love. bow is life. xD

    bow - med dmg, high ailments chance like tumble, stun..etc, more range, more crit chance, higher stability
    bg - high dmg, low ailment chance, less range, less crit chance, lower stability
    there's prolly more differences that im missing but those r the main ones
     
  3. Souleh

    Souleh Well-Known Member

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    ^ for now, bow is better. But there is going to be a buff for bowgun snipe (decreased cast time) which is good :v
     
  4. Ramlethal

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    What about stats?
     
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    Like, would it be possible to get a full explanation on what stats are better for both weapons, and the reason behind it?

    And sub-weapons too, should I use them?
     
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    kariin Patience is a Virtue Staff Member MODERATOR Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor Epic Member

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    im not familiar with bowguns. but for bows, u should always use the elemental arrows, i normally carry evil beast arrow with me. some ppl like to use the mithril arrow cuz it adds crit iirc. on my bow i prefer to use a7cd1cr1414 with arm being all crits. since bow can achieve 100% crit so thats why i have all crit stats. i prefer usin bows with 60% stab & arrows with 20% giving me a total of 80% stab which is also higher than what bgs offers. there is one 70% stab bow out there but it's the FW n has super low atk compared to the equips currently out now.
     
  7. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    The era of "BG for higher DPS" is over for now.
    Bows are now the best choice for DPS due to there being little difference for Snipe's damage and them being more consistent at DPS than BG (higher Stability, no crit penalty for Snipe, full effect of Arrow's base stats rather than half). The typical build is DEX/STR and a lot of crit equips (some use a bit of CRT as well).
    BG is for versatility due to their subweapon slot being less restrictive. They can go the same route as Bows or DEX/VIT for survivability or DEX/CRT to compensate for the penalty on Snipe.
     
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    sadly tho, i heard they were guna nerf the snipes on bow. so idk how much of a diff that would be in the future
     
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    If you're doing full DPS with a bowgun you'd probably want to equip an elemental arrow and put paralysis shot. 50% stability + (20%/2 from arrow) + 10% from paralyisis shot = 70%, which is a lot better than equipping a dagger. I you don't want to equip an arrow then you could equip a shield, or even knuckles to make a gun-fu build.
     
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    What's an elemental arrow? You guys mean like, the basic ones you craft at a Blacksmith? Like the fire arrow and stuff?
     
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    Rumors. All that's confirmed is that Snipe was getting buffed for BG on Asobimo's livestream. But we will notify if they make a ninja nerf (we never know).
    Basically any Arrow that has an element on it.
    Here's a list of the best arrows for each element:
    Fire: Flame Arrow
    Water: Ice Arrow
    Wind: Tempest Arrow, drop version
    Earth: Ceramic Arrow
    Light: Flash Volt
    Dark: Twilight Arrow
     
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    You could also consider using meikyo shisui before snipe to counteract snipe's crit rate reduction. Using meikyo does take away 5% cdmg, but 5% cdmg isn't much when you consider that you'll be able to crit more often.
     
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    these are all the arrows n their drops. i dont hv the newer ones on hand -
    • Evil Beast Arrow (20%) - Base ATK 104, AMPR +3, Short Dmg -10%
      • Boss Dropped Only - Memecoleolus in Dark Castle Area 2
    • Ceramic Bow (10%) - Earth Element - Base ATK 22
      • The Overlook Snack - NPC Zono in Sofya (the bitter nut quest)
    • Flame Arrow (20%) - Fire Element - Base Atk 34, MaxMP 100
      • Dropped from Sunion in Mirror of Darkness (by the Dark Liver entrance)
    • Tempest Arrow (20%) - Wind Element - Base Atk 15 Critical Dmg +1%, Accuracy +10%
      • Dropped from Forestia at Land of Chaos --note the craft version of this lacks Acc
    • Ice Arrow (20%) - Water Element - Base Atk 24, Critical Rate+2 - NPC Craft Only
      • mats: 10 Crystal of Flowing Water, 10 Wet Wood, 50pt Wood, 50 pt Mana, 200s
    • Twilight Arrow - Base Atk 40, Dark Element, Stability 20%, Ailment Resistance 5%, MaxHP -10%
      • Dropped from Twilight Dragon in Forf Solfini Roof
    • Mithril Arrow (20%) - Base Atk 32, Crit 1%, CDmg 3, Long Range 1%, Stability 20%
      • 1 Mithril, 1 Mithril Ore, 90pt Metal, 85pt Mana
    • HQ Wood Arrow (20%) - Base Atk 18, Neutral MaxMP +50, Dex +2, Accuracy +4%
      • Dropped from Arborgon at Harde Hill
    • Artisan Arrow(24%) - Base Atk 30, MaxMP +100 Motion Speed 1%, Stability 24% - NPC Craft Only
      • Mats: 30 Soft Twig, 12 Scorpion Tail, 1 Frog Ointment, 150pt Wood, 300s
     
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    Theres also:
    • Flash Volt (15%) Light Element - Bast ATK 3, Acc +10, %Against Light -50% Bowgun only: CRate + 10
      • Unforgettable Taste Quest from Juan in El Scaro
    • Chimera Arrow (20%) - Base ATK 67, MaxHP -9%, MaxMP +300, CRate +6
      • Dropped by Motzo Machina in the Large Demi Machina Factory (Drops on Easy)
     
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    You forget Pointed ore arrow, which has earth ele and higher base atk than ceramic
     
  16. KusoGeemaa

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    Add the Cacao arrow too its an earth element arrow with crit rate
     
  17. Raikiri

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    Yeah cacao arrow
    Base attack 50
    Crit rate+3 I think and aggro-6%
    ( valentine event craft in bs)
     

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