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[Build] Full AGI Brawler (Knuckles + Dagger) + Evasion Database

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by NineArts, Jan 20, 2016.

  1. WindSlash

    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Aaarrg need more skill points @.@
    Reflex and Godspeed would be wonderful here.
     
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    was there a side-by-side video comparison with and without Godspeed?
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Godspeed increases amount of damage for 1st attacks and evade attacks, and Reflex increases Evasion Rate so these 2 skills basically fits the theme for this build.
     
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    hmm.. was there a test to support these to show evidence if it actually works on non dual wield as weapon used?

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    also, i think @Mugami did a computation with the Reflex buff, i can't seem to remember where he posted it
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    Hmmmmmm......it might be in my dw guide....idr....I have like 37 spreadsheets on my tablet for this game and 84 drafts/posts on my guild blog.
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    I don't have any data to support my claim, but I do remember noticing how I was dealing more damage from my 1st attack pattern than the rest of my normal attacks that followed. I remember posting about it too back when DualSword Skill tree was released.
     
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    i see, i'll try to test it later, i still got alot of things on my plate, haven't done the Paralyse Shot test yet too (still kinda busy @Precaria, i haven't started yet..:oops:)
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    "Q: What about Reflex?

    A: That applies to Total.
    36.74x1.5=55.11
    So when I cast Reflex my Evasion becomes 55.11%, meaning a little over half of the attacks that I don't dodge, Evade."

    Found it on my blog.
    I know it's here somewhere.
     
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    so thinking about BB Garb and the -90% def/mdef of Reflex at Lv.10, can still survive with Lv.10 Hp Boost and Vita Plus II
    however, Evasion is also dependent on Luck stat, was it?

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    if we add Reflex on our combo, this build needs some reworking~
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    Short answer: Luck adds to evasion%. Max Eva is 95%, btw
     
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    also, Reflex only lasts 10 seconds if non dual sword, on duals 100seconds
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    i see.. by the way, how do you pull these numbers? PM pls :oops:

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    Forum said no lol.
    :eek:o_O
    Screenshot_2016-01-20-23-04-39.png
    Roflmao
    But try pming me.
     
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    oh god why.. :eek: pm sent~
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    also what do you think about this @Mugami?


    sonic wave ~> heavy smash(save) ~> gloria (swift) ~> shell break (cons) ~> triple kick (smite) ~> reflex (cons)

    reflex only lasts 10 seconds (non dual wield) and whenever Gloria (Lv.1 = x1.5 of base def/mdef) buff is up, Reflex (Lv.1 -100% def/mdef) penalty never applies.

    there is a little CSPD bonus in adding AGI (1 Agi = 1 Cspd), i wonder if Swift can make the animation speed of Gloria faster.

    also, realized that dagger as sub is best because that small timeframe of being away from the boss will add to a few seconds that Sober Analysis Lv.10 needs to trigger again. so once you are in contact again, you might need just 1 auto attack to do another combo to fill 1 MP Bar. the only drawback is that you always need to have enough space behind you to support that distancing once Evasion Effect triggers.
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    my fairy brawler is close range [holy fist, impact, triple kick...]
     
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    build updated:
    (1/21/2015): updated Concept section again.
    kinda having second thoughts to adding Reflex on the build, what do you guys think? It also sacrifices our total Breaker combo value for more Evasion aside from the defense penalty which Gloria can only remove.

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    Yes to Gloria.
    But no to the combo.
    No reason to waste 2cp on Gloria. It lasts 1min. So why put it in a combo?

    Better to put reflex(consecutive) on/near the end of a spam combo tho. Free buff.

    Or near the beginning to be missed during the combo. But since a lot of bosses have back to back aoes now...
    Bash is good to end a combo with, more than anything, because it's a long stall.
    You can recast gloria, ampr, cast a smited blast/storm/rampage and usually win the gamble untouched.
    Bash is very important for that reason.
     

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