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Evasion also evades critical hits
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*Facepalm*
I just realized that whether I have high accuracy/crit or not shouldn't matter since evasion isn't affected by either one lol
What I'll need to do is lower my atk so I don't cause too much damage when I do hit. That way I can keep him alive long enough to test how anticipate affects the evasion rate of them shadows.
With that in mind, I'll go try it out lol...

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ty sir. but i find recipe to add stat to equip with % success and steps. Could u tell me, sir ?

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ok

the false theory is that 1% STR increases STR by 1%, which means 1 point for every 100 and no effect for less than 100.
the right theory is that it increases the stats gained by STR by 1%.
so if you have 50 STR and gain 3atk for each, you would have 150atk. with STR+1% it would increase to 151,5atk.
that's a very minor effect, but it's just 1% on 50 STR, the effect will be greater with higher numbers.
so, another example: this time you have 70 STR and STR+3%. instead of 210atk you would get 216,3atk.
120 STR and STR+3% would increase atk from 360 to 370,8.
150 STR and STR+4% would increase atk from 450 to 468.

if we only look at atk, it appears that atk% is better than STR%, but that's not it.
atk% only increases atk, while STR% would also increase crit damage, ASPD and whatever else STR affects on your char.

let's take AGI+% for example.
it would affect ASPD, CSPD and Dodge, and even atk if you wear knuckles or MD.

of course flat stats are better for lower numbers, but on higher numbers the effect increases exponentially.
and the formula for STR+ and STR% is not the same as atk+ and atk%.
also in case of ASPD, Dodge, def and mdef, (AGI, VIT, INT) the %effect is cumulative with the %effect from light/heavy armor
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Sorry I'm coming late... based off this, which would be better for now? Dex%, atk%, or str% since that raises atk, stab and cd?

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ty sir. but i find recipe to add stat to equip with % success and steps. Could u tell me, sir ?
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there's a Stat Formulas Guide for that
here: http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/stat-formulas-read-post-1-first.17948/

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Sorry I'm coming late... based off this, which would be better for now? Dex%, atk%, or str% since that raises atk, stab and cd?
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depends on your weapon type and your stats
2h swords and halberds with high STR would probably like STR%, bowguns and bows obviously favour DEX%, while 1h swords could use any of them and which one is better is greatly different depending on their stat points.

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there's a Stat Formulas Guide for that
here: http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/stat-formulas-read-post-1-first.17948/

depends on your weapon type and your stats
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Sorry; that was typo. Meant bow not now

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*Facepalm*
I just realized that whether I have high accuracy/crit or not shouldn't matter since evasion isn't affected by either one lol
What I'll need to do is lower my atk so I don't cause too much damage when I do hit. That way I can keep him alive long enough to test how anticipate affects the evasion rate of them shadows.
With that in mind, I'll go try it out lol...
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I am late af, just got a working screen recorder anyways,

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added status ailments =(^.^)=

only Fear and Fatigue are still unknown...
Fear is yet to be seen, it is only mentioned in the skill description of War Cry, which removes that ailment.
i heard that Fatigue reduces ATK since physical damage is lower in Plastida where you are permanently inflicted with it, but there are only slime type monsters which have naturally high defense
also, there is no way to remove the ailment to compare damage with and without it, so it's not an acceptable theory.
and it would make more sense for Fear to lower ATK (and MATK) since War Cry (which raises ATK) removes it.
we are still missing ailments that reduce Dodge or CSPD...

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Kindly inquiring if there is a cap on stats.
Say you have 255 STR and equip a STR+% item, what happens then? Do you exceed 255 or nothing happens?

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Kindly inquiring if there is a cap on stats.
Say you have 255 STR and equip a STR+% item, what happens then? Do you exceed 255 or nothing happens?
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your STR stays at 255.
the stats you gained from those 255 STR will be increased by +%.

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since the info about stats, special effects and ailments is pretty much scattered around everwhere, i made this short guide about all stats and their effects =(^.^)=

Character Stats:
These are the visible stats on your stat screen.

MaxHP - Your HP, the number is exactly what it says
MaxMP - Your MP, 100 MP are displayed as 1 MP Bar. Fractions are not visible, but they exist.
(If you have 150 MP, you would see 1 Bar, if you use a 100 MP skill it consumes 1 Bar, but you would have half a Bar left.)
ATK - Physical damage dealt increases as ATK gets higher.
MATK - Magic damage dealt increases as MATK gets higher.
(Skill damage is usually a multiplied number based on ATK/MATK. 1 Point may look like nothing, but it counts multiple times when calculating damage.)
DEF - Physical damage taken decreases as DEF gets higher.
MDEF - Magic damage taken decreases as MDEF gets higher.
(DEF and MDEF scale anti-exponential to ATK and MATK. So the effect of damage reduction is most effective when the difference is small and gets weaker as the difference increases.)
HIT - Accuracy rate increases as HIT gets higher.
FLEE - Dodge rate increases as FLEE gets higher.
(HIT and FLEE have a similar relationship to ATK/MATK and DEF/MDEF.)
ASPD - Attack intervals are reduced as ASPD gets higher. Attack speed is accelerated when ASPD exceeds certain points.
(At 1000 points the intervall becomes 0. Starting from 1100 points motion speed increases.)
CSPD - Charge time and Cast time are reduced as CSPD gets higher. Doesn't affect some skills.
(MP Charge is unaffected by this. The scale of Cast Speed is like Attack Speed, but the effect also changes with the basic Cast Time of each skill. Longer Cast Times receive a greater Cast Time reduction than shorter Cast Times.)

Stat Points:
These are the stats that you can spend your stat points on. The effect depends on your weapon type.
Every Stat starts with 1 point. The amount of HP gained from VIT scales with your level and other stats will also grow slightly when you level up.

STR - Increases critical damage and on most weapons also ATK.
INT - Increases MATK and MDEF. There is also a minor increase in MaxMP. On magic weapons it also affects ATK.
VIT - Increases DEF and MaxHP. The effect is the same on all weapons.
DEX - Increases CSPD and HIT. Many weapons also gain ATK. There is also a minor increase in MATK.
AGI - Increases ASPD and FLEE. Some weapons also gain ATK. There is also a minor increase in CSPD.

Personal Stats:
You can choose 1 of them at Lv40, like the other stats it starts with 1 Point.
CRT - Increases Critical rate.
MNT - Increases Ailment Resistance.
LUK - Increases Drop rate from monsters.
TEC - Increases the Success Rate of crafting and synthesis and Difficulty Level. MaxMP is also increased by 1 each point.
The maximum number of points that can be assigned to 1 stat is 255. 255 is also commonly used in calculation of random results, since it gives better random results than calculations done with the number 100. Therefore I suspect that the success of critical hits, ailment resistance, item drop and crafting uses that formula and the corresponding stat is subtracted from 255 to increase the odds of a success.
but this does not mean that 255 points always guarantee 100% success

Equipment Stats:
These stats are found on eqipment and potions. They add or multiply to your base stats.
%based stats are calculated before +based stats. All stats are cumulative.

STR +X - Increases your stats by the same values that X points spent on STR would do.
STR +Y% - Increases the the stat values that you get from your stat points spent on STR by Y%.
The same applies to INT, VIT, DEX and AGI.

ATK +X - Increases your ATK by X.
ATK +Y% - Increases your ATK by Y%
The same applies to DEF, MDEF, ASPD, CSPD, MaxHP and MaxMP. HIT and FLEE are named Accuracy and Dodge.
Natural HP Regen +Y% - Increases the amount of HP regenerated outside of battle by Y%.
The same applies to Natural MP Regen.

Critical Rate +X - Increases your critical hit rate (a %number) by X.
Critical Rate +Y% - Increases your critical hit rate by Y%.
The base value is 25, It can be increased by CRT.
Critical Damage +X - Increases damage of critical hits (a %number) by X.
Critical Damage +Y% - Increases damage dealt by critical hits by Y%.
The base value is 150. It can be increased by STR.
Unsheathe Attack +X - Increases damage of unsheathe attacks (a %number) by X.
Unsheathe Attack +Y% - Increases damage dealt by unsheathe attacks by Y%.
Unsheathe Attacks are the 1st attack, Evasion Attack and certain skills. The base value is 100. It can be increased by stats and skills.
Standard Unsheathe Attacks use the same damage calculation as auto attacks. When a dagger is equipped, the attack triggered by Evasion changes to an attack that is like Throwing Knive.

Short Range Damage +Y% - Increases damage dealt by short range attacks by Y%.
The same applies to Long Range. Short Range is 7m and below, Long Range is 8m and above.
Physical Pierce +Y% - Decreases monsters DEF by Y%.
The same applies to Magic Pierce.
Damage to <Element> +Y% - Increases damage dealt to monsters of that element by Y%.
A plain <Element> means it does 25% more damage against it's weaker Element.
Fire>Earth>Wind>Water>Fire and Light<>Dark.
Neutral element also exists, but is only affected by <Damage to Neutral>
<Element> Resistance +Y% - Decreases damage taken by attacks of that element by Y%.
This also includes the Neutral element. Doesn't matter if it's physical or magic damage.
Physical Resistance +Y% - Decreases damage taken by physical attacks by Y%.
The same applies to Magic Resistance. Elements do not matter.

Evasion Rate +Y% - Increases your Evasion Rate (a %number) by Y.
The base value is 0. It is increased by Light Armor, stats and skills. Evasion has no effect on magic and fatal damage.
Light Armor increases Evasion Rate by +10, Heavy Armor has the opposite effect.
Guard Rate +Y% - Increases your Guard Rate (a %number) by Y.
The base value is 0. It is increased by Heavy Armor, stats and skills.
Heavy Armor increases Guard Rate by +10, Light Armor has the opposite effect.
Guard Power +Y% - Increases Guard Power by Y%.
The base value is 0, Heavy Armor sets it to 25. When a Shield is equipped, the Shield's Guard Power is applied instead. Guard has no effect on fractional and fatal damage.
Ailment Resistance +Y% - Increases the success rate of Ailment Resistance by Y%.
Drop Rate +Y% - Increases the success rate of Item Drop by Y%.
Motion Speed +Y% - Increases the animation speed of your attacks by Y%. (Does not affect the countdown of cast/charge times.)

Additional Melee +Y% - randomly deals additional damage based on Y% of your atk when using normal attacks.
The same applies for Additional Magic +Y%. The damage is categorized as physical/magic skill damage.
Melee Barrier +X - once every 30 seconds, reduce physical damage taken by X.
The same applies to Magic Barrier +X and Fractional Barrier +Y%.
Reflect +Y% - reflects Y% of damage taken on the attacker.
Guard Break +Y% - when you attack and the monster activate Guard, you have Y% chance to negate that effect
Not to be confused with the Status Ailment "Armor Break" which reduces DEF/MDEF
Anticipate +Y% - when you attack and the monster activates Evasion, you have Y% chance to negate that effect

Status Ailments:

Slow - move at half speed
Stop - unable to move
Freeze - Motion Speed is reduced by half
Paralysis - ASPD is reduced by half

Blind - Accuracy is reduced by half
Lethargy - damage dealt is reduced by 25%
Weaken - MP cost of all skills increases by 1

Armor Break - DEF/MDEF is reduced by half
Dizzy - damage taken is increased by 25%

Ignite - deals fixed additional damage 4 times, damage is based on INT
Poison - deals fixed additional damage on every action, damage is 50% of DEX and 1% ATK
If monsters inflict these ailments on you, the damage is based on your current HP instead of the casters stats.

Flinch - cancels all actions, 1s recovery time
Tumble - cancels all actions and fall down, 2s recovery time
Stun - cancels all actions, 3s recovery time

effect still unknown:
Fatigue
Fear
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You are right about weaken increasing mp cost but,
Dizzy doesnt increase damage taken by 25% I tested it saw no change at all @_@
Its a mystery as well.
Also guard break doesnt affect magic def at all only def as there was no increase in magic damage (unless that mini boss got 0mdef already) I will retest this.

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You are right about weaken increasing mp cost but,
Dizzy doesnt increase damage taken by 25% I tested it saw no change at all @_@
Its a mystery as well.
Also guard break doesnt affect magic def at all only def as there was no increase in magic damage (unless that mini boss got 0mdef already) I will retest this.
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Weaken increases mp cost? my combo remained 2mp even after weaken was inflicted

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Weaken increases mp cost? my combo remained 2mp even after weaken was inflicted
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the duration of weaken is shorter than other effects, and it does not take effect on skills that are already activated.
you can see it on the skill shortcut list, i noticed when i was unable to use mp charge because "not enough mp to use the skill"

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the duration of weaken is shorter than other effects, and it does not take effect on skills that are already activated.
you can see it on the skill shortcut list, i noticed when i was unable to use mp charge because "not enough mp to use the skill"
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I sometimes get that too but that was after i killed something after save, but in imitator weaken is almost always active but ive always seen my combo taking 2mp

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I sometimes get that too but that was after i killed something after save, but in imitator weaken is almost always active but ive always seen my combo taking 2mp
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At imitator its fatigue not weaken, only jade inflicts weaken yet no other boss.

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At imitator its fatigue not weaken, only jade inflicts weaken yet no other boss.
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Ah i remember now, still i dunno why weaken would increase mp cost

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Ah i remember now, still i dunno why weaken would increase mp cost
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in FF4 Tellah died after casting Meteor because he was too weak.
maybe that's why

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*bump*

small update:
- cooldown for barriers is 20 seconds (twice the cooldown for items)
- added Sleep to status ailments

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*bump*

the mystery of Fear has been solved =(^.^)=

Ancient Empress used it in the june event, it randomly cancels attacks and skills, but mp is still consumed.
also, if the cancelled skill is linked to a combo, the entire combo is cancelled (but mp is consumed as usual)

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Thanks for the guide! :3
There is one thing others didn't ask, though. 1. How much HIT per DEX? on Knuckles and generally.
2. How to determine accuracy rate?
3. How does Accuracy+ (boost from equipments) work?

That's all of my questions. Thanks! (≧◡≦)

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ああああああああああ(⁄ ⁄>⁄ ▽ ⁄<⁄ ⁄)
Thanks for the guide! :3
There is one thing others didn't ask, though. 1. How much HIT per DEX? on Knuckles and generally.
2. How to determine accuracy rate?
3. How does Accuracy+ (boost from equipments) work?

That's all of my questions. Thanks! (≧◡≦)
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1.)Dex always gives 1Hit regardless of what weapon you use.

2.)Accuracy rate is dependent on your HIT and the opponents dodge, every boss has its own value of dodge so its difficult to give an exact % of hit rate. Accuracy also seems to affect the rate of grazing (reduced stability) from the current tests so far. Every weapon has their own base hit rate which means they can still hit even if boss got insane dodge, for weapons staff has the highest at 30% and bowgun has the lowest at 5%, highest in general is for barehanded at 50%.

3.)Accuracy+% stats take into account your base hit.
Base hit = Lvl + DEX Accuracy+% increases the % of base hit but not the Accuracy that you gain from flat accuracy+ stat.

Biggest question:- Is high hit worth getting? Depends on your class mainly afaik for nightmare mode bosses even full dex and full accuracy gears wont prevent them from dodging so if you are thinking for that I would suggest no.

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