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Cool proyects that asobimo abandoned...

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Lucifere, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    True, but there's no solo drop bonus :"( also find leveling party with DW is difficult..
     
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    Wait until Aso release a boss that spams weak full map AOEs. Those CF and Finale users won't be able to do anything xD though I doubt people will invite DWs because there's still ktn, 2h, and halberds. Maybe make the boss weak to freeze? IMO they really need to do great with the tier 4 DW skills otherwise DW can't compete with Finales :/
    Also I'm kinda waiting for the new weapon this year, if there will be any. Hopefully it won't suck or be too OP.
     
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    I don’t hope DW can compete with finale. Being a mage is only attacker, mage cant do aything else so they got right to be in top of DPS food chain. I only aim for 80% Mage DPS as my target, but reach 50% already impossible to me right now x.x
     
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    I hope the new class isn't op
    We already have CF and finale
    Full map aoes...that sounds nice but also annoying
    Halberd also would suffer more than it already is as gsw is removed by even the smallest hits, and gsw is the one thing that helps a halb do decent dps in comparison to the other powerhouses
     
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    Other classes do crap in NM/ulti runs as many have said before, but DT has 100% pierce so it's OP on those diffs. Halberd without GSW can be good, if I'm gonna build a hb I wouldn't take GSW as I would be much easier to kill when GSW buff is active. IMO the buffs aren't really useful either, other than the increase of motion speed. The full map AOEs I mentioned are supposed to be weak so it will stop CF charging and flinch Finale, but won't kill you :p to balance out the classes I guess. Then again, CF with 2 charges is already powerful.. Perhaps this is the skill they need to nerf the most.
     
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    I know that much as a former halb main
    But the way toram is played now, halb is really just effective for leveling purposes and only on dye hunts
    Gemruns are a dime a dozen and most are either run on normal or nm
    One flick from boss and most halbs are dead
    Truly halb should be the most op but the way toram is being played....
    Halb is especially not that wanted for event bosses either
    Its always lfm-finale or cf...
    That part that makes me quite itchy
     
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    i see halberd players die during dt, i think at least while jumping they should not get dmg
     
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    Yeah that's another sad thing about it lmao
    You need to look for opportunities before pouncing
    It really sucks when someone does something the boss hates then you get slapped by a counter reaction by the boss
    Or the worst part is doing a combo from 13m thinking you're safe, then suddenly boss warps within 12m of you and you're suddenly leaping to death :v
     
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    They abandoned their faith in Aldas and worship the God of Clichés so the stories is just a mockery of Iruna's EPISODE I : *Star Wars intro* THE RISE OF THE NOOB












    Or my hate toward human reaching another level make me fail to feel for them
     
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    why? DW is not really a class of itself,
    but a sub for 1-handed, and already has access 2 trees, DW and sword class trees.
     
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    If it were then it should be in a section appart from the weapon skills no?

    Also, the logic you use here applies to katana which works as bow sub.
     
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    Like what? A staff+sub ohs? Lotr gandalf the gre... I mean white?
     
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    @Alzarith They might abandon Magic Blade Skills, but it dosen't matter for Dark Energy Skills, I am already regretless. ^^
     
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    Kinda doesn't make sense since Meteor Breaker makes you invincible while mid air, but DT doesn't. I guess devs thought it would be too OP.
     
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    Yeeeep. And if you’re gonna rant about abandoning dw and brawlers, at least they got a chance. The magic blade tree never stood a chance on its release xD
     
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    So, you're differentiating those two?
    I'd consider DW as a class if the main-hand weapon consists of 2 1-hand weapon and no sub-hand. That way it'll have restrictions on using Sword Skills
    Then the magic blade should be in the weapon category as well, yeah?

    since the release of DW, it never had lvl 4 skills. Then, halberd was released, then, mononofu. Until lvl 4 skills were released. Even the 2 classes after DW got lvl4 skills. But why not DW? Is it really because it was forgotten.
     
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    Pretty sure aso already announced t4 dual wield on a livestream for around october
     
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    Or maybe they thought that it would just become a 100% pierce, slightly AoE, no charge time version of snipe? That's basically what it is without the positional aspect. A reskinned snipe with more animations.
     
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    No, snipe has a base constant of 400, dtooth has a base constant of 0.
     
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    Yea no constant for bonus damage
    And no aoe either
    Its single hit (not once have I seen this move have an aoe-like effect)
    And brings you to 0m to the boss
    The range of DT actually hurts more than it helps if you're in a small or tight spaced map cuz you'd be forced to leap towards the boss if he suddenly jumps in your range mid combo
    On another note, why is Chronos so bad? I've been looking at it hard and
    It has a multiplier of 6 like some of the other tier 4 skills
    Has a base constant of 400
    Can be used in a spammy combo that doesn't affect proration much
     

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