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dagger skill update (26.1.17)

Discussion in 'Secondary Trees' started by Red_Fox, Jan 26, 2017.

  1. ViPR

    ViPR Elite Observer Elite Member

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    I thought punish ray only buffs next skill...trigger can never miss with 1h it ignores dodge altogether crit or not it will always land
     
  2. Haroshi

    Haroshi Well-Known Member

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    Theres always secrets asimobi doesnt tell us players.
     
  3. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    OMG THAT IS PURE GENIUS! Inb4Asobimofix though...

    The trick with Ray (and some other skills) is that the buff vanishes after the skill has fully ended its animation. Depending on how Asobimo coded the buff functionalities (and seems like they did the "right" way), the buff will persist for a short amount of time. If a skill is cast in that period, they will gain the buff as well. Trigger helps because the next skill has its animation hastened.
     
  4. Haroshi

    Haroshi Well-Known Member

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    Im still using double crit in my halberd. Try that trig gatlong combo with ray it still works 100% =)
     
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  5. Haroshi

    Haroshi Well-Known Member

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    Why 2h cant cast ray!? T.T RAY TRIG TEMPEST or RAY TRIG RAMPAGE would be great.
     
  6. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Would it even work with Tempest? The animation is quite slow, even when swifted.
     
  7. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I think astute is good enough for 2h as it is +50crt and longer duration.
    Though it would be fun to see fully crt rampage
     
  8. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Also punish ray doesnt work for a few skills like snipe and dive impact :v
    So for now ray+gatling for 1h dagger
    And ray+sb for 1h fu.
     
  9. Haroshi

    Haroshi Well-Known Member

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    Too much delay. If youll put snipe and dive as 2nd skill to crit. The skill must be activate fast.
     
  10. Joughton

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    :mad: 2H should get acces to dagger like they said~ :rolleyes:
     
  11. ViPR

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    I don't think it so. It seems to me that ray doesn't work with tempest or if it does it has reduced crit buff because when I use tempest I still get white wind slashes
     
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    What is the length of time after the 2nd skill that ray is still active
     
  13. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    No i mean it doesnt work even if put as first skill.
    For dive impact the buff disappears after the swinging animation is complete so the explosion doesnt get crt buff.
    About snipe u can see the buff will remain even when its charging but it doesnt the crt boost at all (asobimo troll)
    Same would be the case for tempest coz the animation gets completed once you complete the swing so only the first slash will get crt buff while the other smaller slashes are independent so no buff for them.
    I think it should work for rampage tho coz iirc its same dmg for all slashes. Need testing.
     
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    Should work for rampage because u need to only crit for the first slash for the rest to become crits
     
  15. TheXIIIthGuy

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    I was asking if Tempest would receive the Ray buff as a second skill (in his Ray>Trigger>Tempest combo). But seems like your issue has been answered.

    I'm just trying to interpret what happened to @Haroshi (more specifically, why can two consecutive skills benefit from Ray's effect), so I have very little idea about how it works in practice. Theoretically though, it's a fraction of seconds.
     
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    Do u guys think this will be great on knux too?
    Im planning to make a full agi knux then gatling.. :3
     
  17. ViPR

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    I think it'd be decent if u get a lot of motion speed buff from aspd
     
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    I dont understand punishing ray.. If i put astute > punish ray(swift) > trigger slash (safe/consec) > gantling knife (smith) > ender.... Will it make gantling knife crit 100% ?
     
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    no, only the next skill get's the buff, so Trigger Slash will crit and Gattling Knive will only get Trigger's motion speed buff :p
     
  20. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    In a combo both will get the buff ;) try it.
    Both trigger and gatling 100% crt
     

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