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Double CDMG+7% or ATK+7% sets for 80% Crit Chance?

Discussion in 'Bow' started by DansAway, Mar 2, 2017.

  1. DansAway

    DansAway Well-Known Member

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    Full DEX Archer, going into STR as second stat. Current crit chance is 80%.
    question as title, which one will net more damage?

    thank you.
     
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    hmm... if i know this right, currently, ATK+7% is better as of now. However, if you dont make/buy equipment often then i suggest CDMG+7% for long term usage because STR points available will increase with LV cap. but honestly, wait for someone more qualified to reply before you take advice from me, just to be safe before you use ur resources.:D
     
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  3. kariin

    kariin Patience is a Virtue Staff Member MODERATOR Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor Epic Member

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    if by double cdmg u mean on ur arm n weapon, then yes. i'd do that :)
     
  4. Zenki

    Zenki ゼンキー Elite Member

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    If ur doin cxxx gears then you should do a7cd12cr12cr12% weapon and cd7cd12cr12cr12% , 7eally depends on your other gears and skills tho, but i wouldnt do cd7cd12cr12cr12% on a weapon
     
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    he only asked for only cdmg not the other stats. i wouldnt do cd7c121212% either -.-
     
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    Zenki ゼンキー Elite Member

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    Im assuming he means cxxx7 gears cause of the title, dnt think he could have 80% crit rate without them
     
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    well i didnt assume. i just answered the question based on the info he presented xD. shoulda been more specific.
     
  8. DansAway

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    sorry if my question is confusing.
    but yeah im using crit% crit+ gears an my crit rate is roughly 80% (if i count right lol).
    so atk+7% on weapon is better overall?
     
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    Zenki ゼンキー Elite Member

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    A7cxxx weapon amd c7cxxx armor
     
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    i personally do atk 7% on weap n dex on arm.
     
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    Thanks for the information, ill keep this thread in mind before i make any decisions on weapon and armors later on. :)
     
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    I do Atk7 on Wep and dex on armor too
     
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    LETS JUST GET THIS POOP TO MATH BUSINESS TO SETTLE
    FORMULA :
    SNIPE DMG FORMULA W/ BOW = (ATK + 400 ) * (8.0)
    AVG CRIT SNIPE DMG = SNIPE DMG * (CDMG*0.01)
    OVERALL AVG SNIPE DMG = [(CRIT SNIPE DMG - NON CRIT SNIPE DMG) * (CRATE* 0.01)] + NON CRIT SNIPE DMG

    LETS ASSUME YOU HAVE THE FOLLOWING STATS :
    67 STR
    255 DEX
    163 BASE CDMG W/ STR
    1500 ATK
    80% CRATE
    USING TWO A7% = 1710 ATK
    AVG NON CRITSNIPE DMG = 16,800
    AVG YELLOW SNIPE DMG = 27,384
    OVERALL AVG SNIPE DMG = 25,267

    USING TWO CDMG 7% = 186 TOTAL CDMG
    AVG NON CRIT SNIPE DMG = 15,200
    AVG SNIPE CRIT DMG = 28,272
    OVERALL AVG SNIPE DMG = 25,658

    BUT WHAT IF 1 A7 AND CD7 = 1605 ATK AND 174 CDMG
    AVG NON CRIT SNIPE DMG = 16,040
    AVG CRIT SNIPE DMG = 27,910
    OVERALL AVG SNIPE DMG = 25,536

    CONCLUSION : TWO CD7% ARE BETTER FOR BOWS
     
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  14. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Egg, I think he's talking about a Bow user. That means the innate crit chance of Snipe is negated.
     
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    SirEgg cancerous breakfast Elite Member

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    OH CRAP OK REVISING IT NOW
     
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    it is in the bow sub forums. but thats too much math for me. can someone translate it into english? xD
     
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    No consideration to weapon atk whatsoever gtfo
     
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  18. SirEgg

    SirEgg cancerous breakfast Elite Member

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    Funny if u compare bg's avg snipe dmg with bows snipe dmg (even if bow is 200 atk weaker ) they are almost identical

    Oops.i forgot to include bg's snipe are 2.5x stronger
     
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    would hv to disagree with this conclusion tho.
    crits are useless if u dont got atk power if im not mistaken.
     
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    Sorry, but the math is (almost) on point here. The damage increase from crit damage far outweighs the damage increase from attack and DEX, and the huge crit rate makes you crit quite a bit. If you have the patience, I can (try to) explain how the damage calculation formula works.
     

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