Dual Build of Speed. How will it do? (READ 1st POST PLEASE)

That's it! people should try Zolban *.*)/

 

Here another video i im testing my build again Outerworld Wolf. **Ps one of his AoE spawns quick a does guard break and deals 1.8hp my
god **

 

Thanks for mentioning that boss i forgot all about him im going to test my build there too to see my how speed and combos.are. affective against Zolban. Brb

 

Here it is. The Prorate takes longer to increase with this boss *.* , but he does die fast.

 

Here why im not worried about my damage it is fine the way it is. 9.4k per hit is not bad at all for 4k ASPD. Just Check out the 1st half of this clip.

 

Well.... if you ask me.... I deal 12k++ (i forgot since i sold my sword) with faster motion speed (due to trigger slash)
In result, I'm sure I do higher Damage per second than urs.

DPS itself is Damage per second, you can increase it either by increase ur damage or shorten ur attack speed. Therefor both attack and aspd (or motion speed) is important. But There's diminishing return in aspd while there's no diminish in attack. So yeah.... there's certain point of ASPD where you should stop add as @Cypherian said for it to be more efficient.

As someone who always build char with maximum efficiency and maybe different playstyle, i'll say you sacrifice Stab and attack too much for aspd.

 

Ill stay with the High APSD anyways and see how more effective it before as the game progresses cuase i believe this build will become more powerfull as i progress. It just lacks stablility cuase of only having 101STR. You kinda forgeting about the speed factor it makes up for the small 4k-5k difference of the 12k you can do with yours. The faster you cast you skills the more DPS. I was Ranking in attacker against a lvl capped Halberd i ask if hes was using punish ray cuase i thought he was missing. He said he was using that skill. He also ranked attacker a few times too, but most of the times i Ranked it, The Reason why, cuase i was dealing damage at a faster rate. So i really not worried about doing more damage with phantom. But thank you for the tips

 

Just for curiosity's sake, what's the combo you use for that damage?

 

I don't forget, that's why I state aspd is diminishing in return of usefulness. For skill cast, My overall combo might deal 2-3x (triple smite) more than urs with 1.5x motion speed (due to trigger slash bonus)
My budget Non-Punish Halberd till now haven't lose to punish halberd, you see punish halberd is example of High attack but no aspd, it's also bad. It'll be god if you have high aspd but you know till which point you should cap your aspd (for me i cap it at 1800)
It's SUPER HARD for me to explain attack and aspd diminishing of DPS overall x.x maybe others can expalin....

Well Lynx, We got different priority on our build, and maybe different playstyle. All of us DW players here already share their own point of view, so the rest is up to you~

If all our opinion will not change any single part of your build then.... It means there's no point of continuing this discussion, let us enjoy more of your super speed DW video instead ._.)/ that's more entertaining alright ._.)/

 

for that damage test I'll just use spinning -> Phantom SMite -> end (Damage test)

but with my proration merc, i can always produce that much also ^^

my usual combo is :
Astute -> Spinning (Smite) -> S-Step lvl2 (safe) -> Roar Cry(cons) -> Twin Slash (Smite) -> Trigger Slash (Cons) -> Phantom Smite) -> Assault Attack (cons)
Spinning -> Shadow Step (Safe) -> Twin Slash (Smite) -> Trigger Slash (Swift) -> Auto -> Auto -> Combo

Well I use different combo on diff party, depend on my merc existence, number of mage or spammer, etc

 

I see... Then, lemme remind you of those two factors that work in Lynxi's favour:
1. She uses a Phantom with only 130% power due to the Save tag's penalty; had she used a filler skill, her damage would have been slightly stronger.
2. Her damage combo was proration unfriendly for Phantom; Spinning does prorate magically but it won't increase the power of physical skills any further, and Astute will simply lower physical proration.
Not only she has 30% more motion speed going for her but also decent damage source due to Agi giving an insane amount of offhand damage as well as a good Flee value. What she doesn't have is a good HIT (very important because graze happens even if you crit) and stability (but 80% stab isn't too bad).

 

Well.... I do mind that, but you should also mind she used +S sword and mine only +C. It's not apple to apple by comapring our equipment.
30% motion speed is just an assumption, no one has test that +1000 = 10% aspd

just a month ago after I returned, I was just using Full Agi Time warp DW too and find it actually worse.... again it's my own disappointment, others might feel different.

So that's all from me

 

Spin slash reset one patk skill right?

 

check the video on the 1st posts of this thread, it is the combo starting with spinning slash

 

i one of my past comments on this thread i mentioned that i used to use a sword atk 108+B with the stats (Atk+7% Cdmg12 Cdmg+7%) and it did the same damage as this +S Refine sword. Why? Becuase the +S Refine sword Lacks the Cdmg 7% stat. I only got this refine +S sword cuase at the time of finding it, it was cheap and offered me more Crit Rate.

 

Here i the reason why i choose this build and my i will not change it.


I was testing out new stat builds at the time these were 2 out the 4 videos were posted.
Phantom did more damage in the 1st video then in the 2nd video. And with it offering more Speed, ASPD, and Dodge why not.

 

after reading people opinion of my build on this thread the only thing i found that my Build Lacks is Stability. That ill come overtime when the game progess through updates and lvl cap increases. Its like learning a new Martial Art as the Apprentice advances he has strengths in certain areas but will be lacking in others. Over time with experiences those lacking areas become stornger and soon he will become a master the more he advances.. My stability at the moment is ok, but not great but it still provides me good Damage output.

 

5 Notifs all from you .-.
1st... can you conclude what actually uou want to say x.x

And for those 2 videos are you sure you're using same combo and equipment? phantom higher with agi than dex?
If that so then I'll need to test whether Phantom is actually effected by 2nd hand damage a lot or not.

Anyway I'm not really complain much about ur stats, for stats you just need to have str+dex = 200 for stability. 100-200 agi is fine But I disagree with your equipment and combo as I state in my first post. You're simply losing 400 MP and 6str just by equiping Time Warp Watch when you already have 200 agi.

IMO you don't need that 36 crit coz it's so easy to max crit with just equipment + astute now.

You got 2 combos for same purpose. If you say some boss should not be flinch, you can actually just modify that combo before facing it.
You can add a simple Famous Gemini combo.

 

5 Notifs all from you .-.
1st... can you conclude what actually uou want to say x.x

And for those 2 videos are you sure you're using same combo and equipment? phantom higher with agi than dex?
If that so then I'll need to test whether Phantom is actually effected by 2nd hand damage a lot or not.

Anyway I'm not really complain much about ur stats, for stats you just need to have str+dex = 200 for stability. 100-200 agi is fine But I disagree with your equipment and combo as I state in my first post. You're simply losing 400 MP and 6str just by equiping Time Warp Watch when you already have 200 agi.

IMO you don't need that 36 crit coz it's so easy to max crit with just equipment + astute now.

You got 2 combos for same purpose. If you say some boss should not be flinch, you can actually just modify that combo before facing it.
You can add a simple Famous Gemini combo.