Dual Wield/Blade Skill Revamp Discussion

So i tested out only DW Skills yet.
Most of the Tests I've Done were on Twin Slash, Spinning Slash and Phantom Slash.

Retested on all bosses that I've benchmarked upon.

My conclusion is that they Doubled the Damage of DW Skills.
All on max proration
Pre-Revamp:
Spinning Slash:
Normal: 6k to 8k
Smited: 10k to 14k

Twin Slash:
Normal: 12k With non Elem. 16k with Elem
Smited: 30k with non elem. 36k with elem

Phantom Slash
Smited: 4.5k average.

Post Revamp
Spinning Slash:
Normal: 10k to 14k
Smited: 16 to 20k

Twin Slash:
Smited: 45k with non elem. 50 to 60k with elem

Phantom Slash
Smited: 7.5k to 9.4k

A big leap in damage, can keep up with mages and 2h based on combos.
Considering how my play style. On a constant spam with 1 to 2 autos in between i can spam a 25k combo with spinning slash on starter.

I also tried Rampage on DW.
Damage wise. Its just like you're auto attacking. The last three hits roughly equal the damage you do.
Ampr wise.
Lvl 1 no difference
Lvl 5 increase base ampr by 50%
Lvl 10 doubles base ampr.

So my test toon with 700 mp, 26 ampr and 20 base.
Has 86 ampr on normal.
106 with trigger.
And 126 with rampage.

Assuming my main char uses it that has
1.1k mp, 26 ampr, 20 base
I have 52+22+20 = 94 ampr
114 with trigger
134 with rampage.

With a little more ampr. I can regen 3 bars of mp in 2 autos. Using this setup.

 

im surprised that my old smited damage is now my regular damage on spin xD like i was wtf when i saw it was hitting 12k on aranea. Which was my max damage on smite.

 

im excited to test out how much damage i can deal with maxed out charging slash. Since some have been saying before that it can reach 30k per slash. I recon itll reach 50k per slash

 

I think that the DW skills revamp only affects how offhand attack increases the damage. With my main hand focused build, I noticed only a 25% damage increase on all skills. However, knowing your build, you had an equilibrium of main hand and offhand damage, hence your massive increase.
TL;DR: More offhand damage, more DW skill damage than before

 

Not really More Agi = More Damage now.
Im on 100 Agi
My subs are either a 126+S Tomahawk or 105~106 +B Elem subs: Reason being on those weaps i can almost always see a balance auto attack damage. meaning if im able to do 2.5k on my main, my sub should also do 2.5k or more damage on an auto attack.
but on a +B non elem 105 sub, im only able to do 80% damage of what my main does and doesnt add as much damage as a toma+S or elem subs.

the revamp forces DW players to incline more to building a proper sub hand weapon and damage.

 

Yeah, I misformulated it, but we can agree that offhand stats (AGI and STR) have now a huge influence in the damage of DW skills, correct?

 

yup. but more so on Agi building since most DWs only build STR for CDMG. while not really doing much for the damage on your sub.

 

They increased the dmg done by spiral but they removed its ability to crit does it still have the never miss property or do we have to use hit rate to land hits. Is it stronger or weaker than prepatch spiral air

 

i wandering, will u make new build @Cypherian ? or ur last(cypherian legacy dw build) still best?

 

Yes, i can do 30k charging slah (x2=60k), pure full agi, rest str. (normal item)
Maybe dex stat can do higher dam, i dun have char to test.

 

Looks as though spiral air hits 10 times for both 1h and 2h instead of 8x and 4x

 

What are your combos now?

What is your best suggested stats?

 

There is one theory i am hoping to try since the new update but i want others to try it cause i'm lazy .

I named it Magical rampage:

Rampage lvl 10 with power wave. Yes power wave. to hop onto this would need tempest and impact.

therefore Md + one handed sword.

Combo? well i leave it till you. I got a mind of a combo i can use but need 2mp minimum or 3

but you will lose 50%+ dmg.

but this can make your swordman long range attack while generating mp.

 

Ive tried this. Rampage turns power wave's range off. Ampr is slower at Rampage Lv 1 too.

 

The building I'm using now is what I will use, will probably get Rampage, but due to my playstyle, it is limited in when I will get rampage. maybe just get it at level 10 for the AMPR buff and let the damage final slash be a bonus for regenning more.

My Combo's will maybe still focus on Spinning Slash, since now I can do the damage of my smited spinning slash before on my normal spinning slash.
Maybe the occasional Twin Slash Combo, for hard to hit bosses.
Phantom will sitll be my nuke.

 

so does that mean Dual Wielder can come in term of dmg with other dps class?
Yeah finally it happen, but hope someone make a video on DW again

 

Well, did u thinkinh try?
Actually, i love ampr build n love this playstyle n love twin astute trigger spam combo or spining astute phanton combo.
But i wondering rampage skill in ampr dual wlders combo