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Element Exploition vs Crit

Discussion in 'Secondary Trees' started by ShiroNai, Sep 8, 2018.

  1. Alzarith

    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    The problem is that with phys skills, you can use crit rate to cover the poor accuracy. You can't with element slash. It's just going to be really rough to even get weaken inflicted.
     
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    If you actually made sense in the post we would not be having this discussion right now. You are just taking everything up your head and not even trying to reason at all. Go make an op magic blade and prove us wrong. I'll edit for it. Forever. Cuz you wont succeed
     
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    Then use punishment ray which is a magical attack for that 100% crit rate on the next 3 skills
     
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    Demonwar Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you use punish ray to crit your finale/burst then? What you're saying means it can do that
     
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    Well crap, there goes the foundation of this post.
     
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    ShiroNai Well-Known Member

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    And i meant crit elemental slash for a no miss weakness ailment.

    God why are you attacking me.
     
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    How much stre gives to critical damage when maxed, around 200 percent damage right?

    With no CDMG its 150 thats the base.

    The idea was weakness gives 25 percent against a monster when using an element strong against it

    25 more from the fact the monster is weak to the element

    With the crit so 200

    What physical skills dont have i think is an element so if you customise your gear you can get elemental DMG percentage alongside CDMG so elemental DMG stacks like CDMG.

    But that was the idea, guess it doesnt work like that
     
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    I've already told u it can't crit
     
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    ShiroNai Well-Known Member

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    So its a magical skill, that can do physical damage so it can miss, but not crit.

    What the heck were they smoking there in asomibo HQ
     
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    Yeah that was why I said it's useless
     
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    Then dex mage has to be a thing for Elemental Blade Mage to be a thing.

    Will still miss but guess thats the only way.
     
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    ShiroNai Well-Known Member

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    Ill just drop into it and waste 1mil experimenting.

    Ill make a new post in secondary skill tree forum titled "Elemental Blade Mage" or something to place my results.

    Any ideas or advise would be appreciated
     
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    Still the same thing. Elemental slash is a magic attack. It cannot crit with punish ray buff. God why are you not even trying to listen
     
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    ShiroNai Well-Known Member

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    And.. Ignored, im not here to argue, try and be constructive next time, a new skill tree is up theres no guide available, were all allowed to go over our heads to try new things, i thought i had something figured out but before i rushed in like a bull i wanted to make extra sure and talk with ppl about it.
     
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    Maybe in the future "weaken" debuff will be useful to increase damage?
    Like freeze to megiston, slow/stop to wandering wheel?
     
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    let me join in :3
    i'm taking the poster's side for sympathy, because i had similar discussions about my idea of a speed type mage.

    and now an easter egg:
    - holy fist is physical, it doesn't miss but can be evaded. damage scales with atk and matk.
    - element slash is magical, it can miss but can't be evaded(?). skill power scales with STR and INT.

    tataa~ :p
     
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    My friend. I share your enthusiasm. I too delved into this tree. But unfortunately, until the cap gets higher, it won't do much good.

    It is a fun class, that I can say. But you'd end up getting harassed all the time and call you names and say that you're weak, not to mention the number of "idiot"s and "stupid"s I heard all the time.

    Btw, elemental slash needs ohs/ths for it to work. A dex mage can't use it.

    But still, I'm building my sword warrior the best it could go. I'll try to post my results too.
     
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    Question though. I thought graze only happens on crits with low hit? Why does this one graze though?
     
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    It's a magical skill that relies upon HIT, it can graze just like a physical one
     
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    I didn’t know normal physical damage ( not critical) could graze. Good to know. Thanks
     
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