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EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT MERCENARIES

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by mayam, Dec 10, 2017.

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  1. t(^_^t)

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    I'm looking into buying a Nurethoth mask for my merc.. is motion speed considered the same as aspd? Is it just affecting skill casting animation speed which isn't really a problem since mercs don't use active skills?

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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Giga speed potions work on partner/self mercs so monster pot might work as well
    However no potion can work on registered/hired merc so yes you can not show it off.

    Yes motion speed stat applies to merc. I use nure mask as well and I dont see any significant difference.
     
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    Thanks, now i'm just 2k short of 60k hp! Is a 100k hp merc even possible?
     
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    Ah so there's no problemo letting my merc use
    Snowman Garb huh. Thanks for the info.
     
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    Wow. I want to try for that...
     
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    =) In my research you can reach 142k++ HP Merce
    But I think I'll change my integridar to modestia for aspd someone advise me that every aa give 150 aggro​
     
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    Im really looking forward for your good merc's build cz i wanna be silent dps on my acher char, bare hand is the best merc? But when I equipped my barehand merc with sword/2h sword, it will decrease a lot my aspd stat, can you give some pointer about it? Im really sad cz missing some equip event that good for merc
     
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    I also missed the event knuck so I'm trying to find other ways to increase accuracy :( how much Hit would be good?
     
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    You didn't miss it. You can still farm it.. if you meant Pomie knucks (drills 100 crit rate replacement).. Crit rate does not help for mercs btw. If you own a knuck tank farm for tripple icecream when it comes out again it buffs hit rate.
     
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    That's exactly what I missed, the ice cream knucks. Back then I wasn't interested in building a tank/def merc so I paid 0 attention to getting the knuckles, not even for app :(
     
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    That's one reason why I always farm all new events specially with new gear. When the queen staff first came out almost everyone I knew just sold the staff as apps. When tier 4 magic and with it finale was introduced few mages had the advantage of owning that staff. The same could be said about all the other events.

    The eagle knucks are here for now so the possibility of making a dps/tank is possible. Farm it. It's worth having, it even has 3 dyes.

    As they say hind sight is always 20/20.. but there is no way we can turn back time (at the moment). So just move forward and farm what you can today!

    This game has made me a hoarder. I collect armor, weapons, apps and weird gear from new bosses or events because I enjoy playing with experimental gear. It's a pain on my storage but that struggle is also part of the fun (for me anyway). We'll never know how Hero potum ohs will be used in the future. When tier 4 dual weild comes out they might be great to have. What's useless today may become the meta tomorrow! Just keep on farming. Good luck. ^^/
     
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    The ice cream is on dec event, iirc. Now is a good time to make a bg tank!(vit-dex) Specially if you got the harpoon bg last summet event. Once dec event kicks in and you got them knucks, you can also get the navida shield for 1k aspd bonus(only apply during dec event) and retire your tank as a partner for the rest if the year(from before the dec event ends- till november next year lol). Better have a decent ava for your tank tho, i have spent 5 months with a snowman partner as a tank, kinda feel akward when my guildmates talk about it tho.
     
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    I think Integridar 2hs is the way forward now, for both attacker (full str rest dex) and defender (full vit rest dex) mercs. This weapon has great power, accuracy and huge hp boost, on top of being a weapon with hidden bonus for mercs (further doubled attack power).

    Note, seashell arm from grinding the previous diving minigame is also good for atk merc (10% atk and 100 accuracy)
     
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    Thanks for the replies everyone! I probably should've clarified that I already have a build in the works but I just wanted to make sure that my accuracy reaches the recommended amount for defender mercs :) I know critical rate is important for tanks but for defender mercs, ASPD and Accuracy is where it's at, no? Defender mercs using Toy Hammer, for example, will still be unable to take aggro away from me. ASPD is not a problem with my build, but my HIT (which I'm assuming is where accuracy is reflected) will only be around 200 by the time my tank caps. I'm not sure whether that's enough. I suppose my best bet is to wait until the icre cream knucks come back...or sacrifice some stats for more accuracy. I'll probably go to the tome of offense thread and see if there's something about accuracy there.
     
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    Defender merc requires HIT more than anything. HIT is more important than even HP so no ice cream will always be better untill they release a 400% accuracy weapon or something like that.
    Bosses like ornlarf have 600+ flee stat so theres no way integrider is hitting anything even on hard mode. If the flee gets astronomically high then barehanded mercs are better coz they have the highest correctHIT of 50%

    I suggest barehanded mercenary with highest HP possible if you are building a defend mercenary but lacking ice cream. Ice cream is only available during white day event so theres quite some time untill you get it.
     
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    Sadly i missed the boat on ice cream knucks so been finding the best alternative, which turned out to be Integridar. As you said stacking hp is the next best thing, which integridar reallys excels at. So i'm rocking a def merc (full dex rest vit) with 95k HP, 525 HIT and 1.8k ASPD.
    It may not be able to reliably hit any Nightmare or Ultimate boss, but for the most part, it does a decent enough job. If i was farming high difficulty bosses i probably wouldn't be counting on mercs anyways :D
     
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    Some info that was lacking/incorrect on main post but since the character limit is already hit and I am too lazy to edit the whole thing:

    --2h/DW mercenary have increased attack stat regardless of if its "attacker" or not.
    --Katana mercenary has a nerf of halved attack stat and no still Two-Handed bonus does not apply because of 0 crit rate. Unsheathe attack stats do not apply either. This makes katana the weakest attacker mercenary
    Attack stat here is after the attacker stance 2x multiplier being applied.
    --The damage calculation of attacker mercenary looks something like this:
    ((MATKstat + MercenaryLvl - EnemyLvl)*(EnemyMagicResistanceModifier) - EnemyMDEF)*(1 + TirednessModifier) (For mercenary equipped with Magic device, staff)
    ((ATKstat + MercenaryLvl - EnemyLvl)*(EnemyPhysicalResistanceModifier) - EnemyDEF)*(1 + TirednessModifier) (For others)
    NOTE:
    --TirednessModifier is a value between 0.1 and 1, it starts out at 1 on a healthy mercenary and slowly drops down starting from 1 hour total time in field after it is summoned.
    --The said TirednessModifer is also multiplied to all the stats of a mercenary except for maxHP.
    --For some reason bowgun mercenaries target MDEF stat of the enemy instead of DEF stat
    --Mercenaries can trigger a second retreat AI if the summoner comes less than 3m near them which always results in a retreat away from the summoner. This retreat AI can not be bypassed by 1100 ASPD stat.
     
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    Thanks for the tip Mayam! :) No problems with the hp since that's what I focused on the most with my build. I'll definitely get the ice cream knucks if they make it available again!
     
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    So I just registered a new Defender merc with BG/shield (to lock in that sweet 1k ASPD frome event shield). Merc now has 4.4k ASPD :cool:. Stupid question (since its a bit hard to tell visually), but does the motion speed bonus from going over 1.1k ASPD apply to mercs? :confused:

    Also, the -15% motion speed from nurethoth mask add won't apply to mercs, correct?
     

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