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Full Support Mage (Lvl 160 Cap)

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Raider_, Aug 25, 2016.

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Are supports needed in toram?

  1. Definately

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  2. Maybe

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  3. Definitely NOT

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  4. Just mine

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  1. Raider_

    Raider_ Well-Known Member

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    Update:
    Added Support Skill Immunity
    Added Shield Skill Gaurdian
    Added combo with Gaurdian
     
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    Update:
    HP/MP
    Armor
    Added Aranea to Additional (Head)
    Removed Gaurdian, raised Immunity skills
     
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    so Libera's book ok?
     
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    And can you advise a boss drop arm
     
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    I used to have Knight Armor from Pillar Golem for the longest time; NPC crafted though had stats more suited for this than the boss drop. More recent armors though, from looking at them, I would recommend Praetor Suit or Birgandine, if base Defence matters to you. It took forever for me to make the player crafted armor for myself, so that is a very good question ^^
     
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    Sorry I skipped over this xD do you mean Libra the staff weapon?

    If you do, the NpC made staff weapons I recommend would be Folium Staff, Crystal Wand, or Icestaff Frigus. I do not recommend Libra as the -Matk is bad considering this is isn't an Int based build.

    If you meant Libera book, (the special leveling book), then yes, I recommend that for leveling if it is available for you xD
     
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    its been a long time i havent visited this thread..
    yesterday i found out that support type mage is compatible with Tamer skill,
    i just want to know What do you think?
     
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    I think it is a good addition to the game. For it to replace the support players, I don't think it will be like that. They make the game very well soloable, but not completely team free. Like, the pets are also able to attack and you can have mercenaries in party as well. But will people replace real players with those? I think playing with a real person will be much different than having an NPC /computer operated character in your party. It is an option when a player isn't available, but the realization of it being a conscious being behind the action will be a major difference between having a pet/merc vs an actual player.
     
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    Sorry bout that i meant libra's book Ty
     
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    Update:

    Removed Immunity (I found Recovery is fine for now)
    Added Enhance Bless
    Added Gaurdian ( ._.)

    ***Ether Barrier, at level 10, is about a 3 second cast, 3 MP, and the buff maybe lasts about 3 seconds xD So, you have 3 seconds to be interrupted, which will make you waste 3 MP for a buff that is 3 seconds haha It can be put in a combo, so maybe swift, but it would still be a decent amount of casting for now. About the same as MP Charge on swift >.< I will keep trying different things, but for now, this is what I changed***
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    It seems ether barrier is bugged as it stays the 5sec duration which it has at lvl1 usually such skills get extended duration with lvl but its not. I dont see any other difference between lvl1 and lvl10 either. Lets hope it gets into at least 30sec buff at lvl10
     
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    I hope it is a bug haha It might become like warcry. But yeah, nothing changes between Lvl 1-10... And that's really hard to time considering how quickly a flinch comes and goes...
     
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    WoW raider kun. So GG guide. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Haha thanks! Late reply xD but this site has been giving me issues for awhile ( ._.) I hope it's still helpful for people!
     
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    Oh nice build ^^. I needa make a char for parties so i can get healer for emblem xp. GG
     
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    I dunno if I should post this on athenas thread or here I guess I will just post here as it has more to do with 2 guardians together.

    It was recently discovered guardian not only reduces the damage taken on the party but also gives an insane +25ampr to party members which seems like a very op boost the tanker can have tbh but heres the biggest catch.
    Guardian actually reduces the aggro of the party members inside the aura instead of just giving high aggro to the caster.
    Tested in this video:-


    Which is kinda lame as it doesnt allow to be used on the tank the one that needs it the most.
    So you cant apply the guardian on the tanker even if you have bloom of peace equipped as any long ranger char like sniper will be able to easily steal aggro from the tanker. But what you can do is stay far from the tank and use the guardian on the long rangers they will get reduced aggro and increased ampr, this will kinda help the tank indirectly as from my experience and the test above long rangers are the only char that can steal a guardian users aggro because of this property.

    Since all the talk about healer/supporter is getting noticed I wanna ask:-
    How do/did you both use guardian when farming bosses together? @athena__ @Raider_
     
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    yeah I noticed the ampr too which is nice. Hmm well tbh I don't think we've used both at the same time yet. We can test but if I'm correct raider guardian is lower lvl then mine so I'm not sure how that will affect the stats your referring to.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Let me give a bit more insight.
    If the guardian are different lvl the higher lvl will overwrite the lower lvl one so you wont get reduced aggro if raider uses lvl1 near you and you use lvl10. At that point guardian technically wont do anything c.c

    However if they are same lvl neither of you will get reduced aggro or boosted ampr, you both will just get boosted guard rate.
    As I said before raider using lvl10 guardian near your while you yourself dont is not an option as you will have reduced aggro. No point in both of you using lvl10 near each other either as none of you will get the benefits. It maybe possible for raider to use high lvl guardian near you but then the party will have to be strictly short range users.

    What you CAN do tho is a concept I named "backline guardian" A supporter equipped with bloom of peace that uses lvl10 guardian near the backline dps members like arrow mage and archers to reduce their aggro making it easier for tanks to aggro even more. The archers get a huge 25ampr boost which they can use to quickly regain their mp quickly and also protect them from aoes like td ball that target farthest player.

    This concept is just a theory made by me, I have no means of testing it on field as I havent met passionate supporters like raider yet. Thats why asking you both to try this concept with fellow archer friends/guildies and see how it works out.
     
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    It sounds like an interesting and well thought out theory ^^ I don't normally use Gaurdian unless I randomly have to tank to help me keep agro; for now, that's the only reason I have it. I am not planning to level it more until I have more spare points, unless something changes, which my mind does a lot... Lol

    The hardest thing with this "Backline Gaurdian" Theory is that, from what I have noticed, everyone tries to play symmetrical... Meaning, they want the battle to "look pretty" xD tank in front, DPS on one side and the other DPS on the other side and support trying to figure where to stand at the right time so party members are buffed at the right moments lol Communication is key for this area, but not all parties work great together.

    I could see this being very helpful though (saying it is true game mechanics) if the tank has trouble landing hits or the boss moves too much-- these two instances can make even the highest agro tank lose it at some point in time, especially during long battles.
     
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    Used this cap to get Support Auras to Lvl 10 and Gloria finally xD pretty simple update! Still just Vit>Int build, adding Dex to it soon!
     

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