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Good Breaker Build?

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by LynneRin, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. LynneRin

    LynneRin Active Member

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    I'm currently trying to build a breaker character this time around. It can be a hybrid with tank or support (since I've already built my DPS char) but it must have a high breaker rate. Anyone's got example build?
    I heard that knuckle is the best weapon choice for breakers so I'm posting this thread here ^^
     
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    Are you looking for the rank or just to break (flinch , tumble, stun)
     
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    Mainly for the break utility to break bosses and farm them ^^
    But it would be nice if it can also tank and give support decently.
    I was looking at Precaria's pure tank build but would love it to have support function or a decent damage too (an all-rounder with more focus on breaker maybe, but if it's not possible, then high break+ quite heavy tank+ a bit support would be good).
    My usual party members are mainly DPSes with no other proper roles, hence I wanna know if it is possible to build xD
     
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    Jbazt Into the Forsaken Realm of Consciousness Elite Member

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    using recovery can easily make any a semi support if you can find a room for giving it to others. but there will be types of boss esp most event boss that you need to focus on tanking + surviving only and the more you try to support others, the more you will empty your options like mp. pdef for surviving, combos for aggro generation, recovery/heal/bless/first aid to support all requires MP. its not passively recovered and not unlimited. on a very hard hitting annoying boss, it will be hard to be a jack of all trades...a master of none.
     
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    The more atk/matk you got the better you will be at breaking parts. If you want to be able to give the ailments yourself while at the same time, tap and break the parts effectively (not relying on the other party members which often couldn't be relied on) Id say its 1h+shield knight build, your role would be that of a tank while still be giving some decent damage. Then again breaking parts is a thing that should be coordiinated with your party members, instead of 1 guy having the full role solely to break the parts to achieve the maximum efficiency. So all I can say, if you are in a party, dont be lazy!
     
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    If it's only for breaking and farming bosses then your best bet would be a staff shield finale user with shield bash, my luck mage can break really well using queen staff which boosts my matk depending on int and I sometimes singlehandedly break all the parts at venena by myself by stunning her with my shield first, and also sometimes functions as a tank by luring venena's laser down the center LOL
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    It would be hard to even hit the boss with shueld bash tho
     
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    It's very easy at venena and on some bosses, since they don't have that much evasaion
     
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    im a bit confused. if its a breaker rank, the more you prorate the more likely you will get the breaker rank. If its to break boss parts, most skills that shows the tap targets are physical skills that needs accuracy (hit/crt) to be effective and reliable. if you want to use mage, impact is a decent skill for breaking parts. if its the tap dmg, you need to just raise your atk like what someone said above. like ive said its hard to be the best at all worlds. because stats are limited for now, u will always need to sacrifice something if you want to be best at what you think should be the priority for your role.
     
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    Well he mentioned that he also wants to farm bosses, and as we all know mages(especially luck mage) are the best at farming bosses using finale unless you're farming for xtal, and like you said impact gives 100% tumble for staff so its very useful for breaking, also i hate to admit this but sometimes my luk mage can deal more damage than my main katana dps on some bosses despite only having boss drop equips with no slots and only +E refine, compared to my katana dps which all has 2 slots complete with xtals other than additional and +S refine because it has more survivability:rolleyes:, my luk mage already has more than 9k hp fom using luminous mushroom staff and frog hat, along with lil empress arm for magic and phys resist and zahhak shield, despite not having any points on vit or +hp xtals lol, added to the fact that recently bosses have become anti-melee so I ended up using my luk mage or tank more often than my main dps:(
     
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    yeah most boss looks anti meelee but there are tanks skills that can give melee extra protection if they got caught and most melee uses sukuchi now that can help for dodging and closing the gap to boss fast when needed. maybe it sometimes depends on the party members also. and your statement "luk mages is best for farming bosses" is an LOL that sounds like the intention all along was to leech for an easy drop. making a tank who spent all stats/skills for the role and DPS who spent time/spina on improving every inch of their atk as much as possible a sucker. maybe thats why your Katana so OP :p
     
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    A luk mage can easily deal at least 85% of the damage dealt by a full int mage as long as it has finale. Only idiots living in 2016 or the ones that don't even know what they type would call a luk mage "leech" without even knowing their skill set.
     
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    I'd say its around 67% compared to Int>dex mage but well, I'll take any finale users in my party if I need some
     
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    I'm so confused now XD
    I thought brawler is the best breaker class, hence I thought of combining it also with Tank--while my mage is built into a DPS class.
    Maybe I like Precaria's build too much but I believe it's outdated. Any opinion? :D
     
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    1h sword+shield, with decoy shot, spam impact+meteor combo, p def when necessary, and you're good
     
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    I'll look around the 1H+shield builds available then XD
    Thanks!
     
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    Let's just put it this way. There are class suited for every types of boss and grinds. For a luk mage, I never said they don't do dmg. But if it's a NM xtals, mats, pots grind will they invite someone like a tank/dw/HB? And at the same time HB, tanks, DW never crossed their minds to even go to the site hoping for a party because they knew theyre not for that.
    So if luk mages are very choosy on their members on their farm specialty, is it wrong to prefer a fully dedicated dps class on boss/mini boss farm? The thing is greed is a nature to all and sometimes it wont ceased to exist even on opinions. Maybe it's best for you because you got no other options to use but you can't speak in general that might create a band wagon train that can destroy the reputation of a legit full dps mages.
    I don't discriminate luk mages, infact id rather accept a luk support mage than a luk dps mage. Because game is overpopulated with dps already and I always believed that 2 dps is more than enough in most boss farms. Whats lacking in game now is a support that will debuff ailments, heal, fast resu, inflict ailments to bring back the balance into this game. Because for something that is not affected by Gemruns(duration), for something that's merely a boss tools and a distraction to delay, disrupt, prevent players to efficiently do their own roles, Ailments became so annoying proof is MTL tanks/DPS are in hype rn.
    BS support/LUK support is more useful imho.
     
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    Well, its not like asobimo isn't trying to make support class matters. More bosses have ailment weakness gimmicks to encourage debuffs that directly affects the amount of damage you deal, with how the game is DPS-centered nature and PVE exvlusive I'd say its on the right path, and there will be more to come.
     
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    For breaking, you really can't do better than the martial skills. With only 22SP this tree gives you 100% flinch, tumble and stun so you can effectively break anything. Its also only 7SP if you are already panning to take Chariot+Rush. That's so efficient.

    Build wise - All AGI, rest VIT, should give you decent atk and around 20k hp (with ornlarf xtal + hp boost maxed). Throw on a Shield with Pdef + Guardian maxed and you have yourself a capable tank. You won't be the best attacker, and you may struggle to hold aggro if other pt members run huge aggro combos (and stay outside of your guardian range) but other than that, this build should be pretty good for what you originally asked for. :D

    Btw Guardian will gimp your own damage, so use it only when necessary.

    Also, everybody runs Decoy Shot nowadays for sweet auto mp regen. Its also best for tanky types because the enemy stays on you, and you can stay near your decoy :cool:
     
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    yes theyre trying to shift the meta to that i think. if we fastforward game 1 year from now, bosses/event boss will hit harder, more HP, def, resistance, more weakness/ailment multiplying dmg, more distractions (ailments), crazy conditions to deliver dmg, and with their thing adding minions that will constantly spawn, mini bosses, multiple bosses inside the arena (another distractions), we might expect unavoidable heavy damage coming from all directions. and thats only for regular modes not gemruns.
     
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