1. Welcome to the Toram Online Forums. Please make sure to read our rules and be friendly to all our members.
    Click here to read the rules before posting.
    Dismiss Notice

Halberd-Observations and ideas

Discussion in 'Halberd' started by I robot, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. -bRyAn-

    -bRyAn- Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2015
    Messages:
    501
    Likes Received:
    217
    IGN:
    dArKnEsS
    I made a new char. a DW & test Strike Stab crit rate. I had a total 93% Crit rate from my gears , Crit Up & Astute. Then I use Lvl 10 Shadow Step before Strike coz it boost the Crit rate of the next skill. I use this combo:

    Astute>Shadow>Strike>Trigger

    I though it will be enough to make Strike crit but it never crit. So my question is : Is this a penalty if u use 1h u can't crit Strike Stab? or is it bug?
     
  2. Rona

    Rona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Messages:
    428
    Likes Received:
    374
    IGN:
    Rona
    A penalty i believe
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  3. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2016
    Messages:
    4,203
    Likes Received:
    2,473
    Omg i was literally shouting not to add strike stab on 1h it never crt.
    Why u do this ._.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  4. -bRyAn-

    -bRyAn- Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2015
    Messages:
    501
    Likes Received:
    217
    IGN:
    dArKnEsS
    I just thought it had too low crit rate & try If it can be boost to crit so it can be usable on my DW but it failed. :p
     
  5. Joughton

    Joughton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2016
    Messages:
    422
    Likes Received:
    165
    IGN:
    Akihito
    In fact I think it might be a bug though... The skill description only says: low critical chance; as far as that holds me being concerned, low isn't 0% crit chance; so lets hope it ís a bug and report it to Asobimo :cool:

    EDIT: Even though it might as well be the penalty for using the skill with 1h; but still I think that a non-critical skill is very werid o_O

    (Except mage skills of course)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,055
    Likes Received:
    3,278
    IGN:
    Red_Fox
    report it instead of complaining.
    the worst you can get is "we cannot reveal information about game mechanisms" :p
     
  7. -bRyAn-

    -bRyAn- Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2015
    Messages:
    501
    Likes Received:
    217
    IGN:
    dArKnEsS
    I Agree thats why I try it coz I cant believe they will make it non-crit as a penalty.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Joughton

    Joughton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2016
    Messages:
    422
    Likes Received:
    165
    IGN:
    Akihito
    If for anything the penalty would probably be like this:

    Snipe (-25% cr rate at Bowgun but 250% more dmg then bow; bow no cr rate penalty)

    Strike Stab (-25% cr rate at 1h and Halberd but like 200-250% more dmg then 1h or something)

    EDIT: that's just my thoughts :oops:
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Sad Sad x 1
  9. julzvanrod

    julzvanrod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2016
    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    7
    IGN:
    JuVair
    In my opinion, strike stab should not crit on 1h, cuz if it does, then 1h fu with strike stab is OP. And I think Halberd having the crit on strike stab exclusively would make the class unique.
     
  10. Joughton

    Joughton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2016
    Messages:
    422
    Likes Received:
    165
    IGN:
    Akihito
    Yeah but still... 1h fu is already more OP then brawler anyway...

    EDIT: Except from @RyeUshio ofc :D
     
  11. Jiaost

    Jiaost Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2016
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    7
    IGN:
    Tsao
    Does the casting time of punish ray reduces when in swift?
     
  12. Mcw

    Mcw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2016
    Messages:
    818
    Likes Received:
    762
    IGN:
    Mcw
    @Mayam .u.
     
  13. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2015
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    2,933
    IGN:
    BK.
    Nope, only the animation speed gets reduced
     
  14. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2016
    Messages:
    4,203
    Likes Received:
    2,473
    Punish ray is a magic skill they do not get boost from swift
    Better use with 1.1k cspd tho coz just 0.8sec charge at lvl10 and gives 100% crt chance to next skill
     
    • Like Like x 2
  15. Jiaost

    Jiaost Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2016
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    7
    IGN:
    Tsao
    Thank you very much to all who answered my noob question ^_^
     
  16. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2015
    Messages:
    1,337
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    It does get a boost by Swift. What it doesn't do is reduce the cast time, but it does indeed speed up the slashing animation.
    Similarly, any pre-charge and post-charge animation gets boosted in this fashion.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  17. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,055
    Likes Received:
    3,278
    IGN:
    Red_Fox
    Swift and Motion Speed accelerates all animations, but cast and charge times remain the same. =(^.^)=
     
  18. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2016
    Messages:
    4,203
    Likes Received:
    2,473
    Yeah i know but those extremely small milisecond difference is not something to worry about much, though here punish ray is 0mp so swift it away
     
  19. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2015
    Messages:
    1,337
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    When you've played countless games that have skill/ability times as a crucial point, you are so paranoid you want to shave off every single millisecond you can @-@
     
    • Sad Sad x 1
  20. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2016
    Messages:
    1,122
    Likes Received:
    335
    IGN:
    none
    Also, I noticed one more thing. using quick aura until you are at 1 hp causes the dodge to rise a lot. found it while trying to get a free tp back to town
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1

Share This Page