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Halberd or 2H?

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by Onamata, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. Onamata

    Onamata Well-Known Member

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    I am currently working on a build on this class but, I can't decide when there to use dex or agi as a secondary, it says agi helps with some power and aspd but, with the low accuracy.. I haven't done a direct dmg test yet but would 2h still be considered superior?
     
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    For your first question:
    Agi for Halberd(for 1stat point): 1.5 atk, 3.5 aspd; and some cspd and flee iirc. (I don't know the things about aspd and cspd for sure)

    Dex doesn't add any damage to Halberd at all; it's not even confirmed it adds stability yet. ;); so I think this will be kind of useless for a dps build (speaking of the question of your build is dps...Which it is I guess; otherwise not your second question :D)

    2h will always stand at the top :p (at least for me :D)

    If you want to deal max damage go staff fu :cool:

    But 2h vs Halberd...I think 2h would win for now...

    Str for 2h = 3atk/point
    Str for Halberd = 2.5atk/point

    Secundary stat for more damage
    Dex for 2h = 1atk/point + more stab etc
    Agi for Halberd = 1.5atk/point +aspd etc

    So for the moment; just max atk speaking 2h will be the winner...However judging from skills...Maybe Halberd cán outdps 2h; I don't know to be honest ; but I think for now 2h will win with a slight difference :oops:
     
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    Onamata Well-Known Member

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    That's a lot more detail then i thought, i appreciate it ^^
     
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    But original skill for halbred has very high damage. When it have appropriate combo it will make very high damage.

    All of this base on my guest.
    Now we can not buy orb to open new character slot!!
     
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    That's what I said too.. But we don't know their full potential yet; everything is still being tested:D We don't know the full potential of those skills yet...I think o_O
     
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    yeesh i was wondering this, imma wait till i see people doing stuff and their reviews on the build
     
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    We have few info regarding halberd atm,so 2h for now
     
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    Right now I'm at a fairly low level, and still critting 8k+ with Dive Impact, and thats on the initial jab into the ground. Doing about the same with the second hit as well, (The long range aoe).

    Also, I think that timing revita use will be pretty important with Halberds as well, because of the skill that requires you to have lower hp for a higher amount of mp restoration
     
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    Dps alone, Halberd outdps 2h. However 2h has more balanced game since it has many interrupting skills for a flinchable boss
     
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    Hmm...I doubt that to be honest...I did a gem run yesterday at PG ultimate; me being a lvl 112 2h user and my party members were a sniper(lvl 102, tank(idk what level again :(, and halberd (lvl 115)

    I became 2nd in attacker rank; the sniper became first; and the halberd became third damage wise speaking :cool: and it wasn't that the Halberd gears of him were bad or anything; so it really depends too

    Of course one battle is by no means enough testing resource; but for now I think both of them are equal in power :)

    EDIT: It depends too much on the players too...I guess I would equalize myself if I challenged myself with Halberd vs 2h sword
     
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    I heard great things about that sniper.. iirc, his name starts with 'N' and ends with 'F'.. i cant remember his name though :p..

    Anyways, imo.. for now 2h is btr than halberd..

    (Although, we must not forget.. we dont know the full potential of halberd yet.. as it hasn't even been a month since halberd got released)
     
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    It definitely wasn't you...That's for sure :p...

    Halberd = strike stab and with or without punish ray... At least everyone builds his halberd like this (from what I've seen); so I do agree with that certain guy who's name starts with "N" and ends with "F" ... But Halberd will become eventually stronger then 2h...Sword fu too because of the stat distribution; :(
     
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    Pg hates flinches. If flincheable, 2h has more balance
     
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    Yes of course...But he also has hate towards tumbling...And while I have a 2h impact build, I exceeded the Halberd in terms of damage wise speaking; with just a simple combo: Astute-> Tempest(smite)->Trigger (cons)

    Also what do you mean by more Balance?
     
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    2h has interrupt skills in the skill tree alone.. Try to test @Squid. He has op Halberd
     
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    even though halberds have AGI in their stats, they are naturally slower than 2h.
    swords have a skill to raise speed, in combination with AGI they will be faster than halberds.
    swords also have faster skills =(^.^)=
     
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    Its a two mp skill that does same or sometimes more dmg than a 4mp skill.
    Only problem is that, theres no proper builds available so naturally there wont be many op halberd players right of the bat.
    Thats why its highly dependent on the persons build ^^
     
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    MP shouldn't really be a problem anymore with those 1mp save combo's..But if you use a 150% combo strike stab that costs 4 mp or something, vs a 2h 150% combo Tempest which will be 6 mp; they both will have that mp back at around the same time due to 2h having Trigger slash and faster auto attack animation (correct me if wrong)
     
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    Agi adds atk for Halberds though; while it doesn't do this for 2h ;)

    EDIT: a 2h STR>DEX; will it be faster in speed then a Halberd STR>AGI ??
     
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    U dont get it if mp is low u can add lots of swift tags on your combo to make it faster ^^ also a typical burst combo would cost only 3mp even without impact.
    Todays match with @Mcw showed me that halberds can be as fast as sword fus and hit more dmg than them.
     
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