Haru's Complete Refining Guide

Before we start, ensure that your TechSmith is meeting the following requirements:
Tech must be capped at 255
Required Skills:
Level 10 Refine Equipment
Level 10 Mid-Class Refinement
Level 10 High-Class Refinement

Degree/Level of Risk
[GALLERY=media, 960]Refining Risks by HaruChan posted Aug 26, 2016 at 11:48 AM[/GALLERY]

Success Rates depends on various factors including:
Type of Ore Used
Item used to increase chances of success (E.g. Magic Hammer, Refinement Powder, Refinement Tickets etc.)
Level of Difficulty

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Type of Ore Used
Each ore has its own value which affects the success rates.
[GALLERY=media, 962]Ore value by HaruChan posted Aug 26, 2016 at 1:56 PM[/GALLERY]​

Degree/Level of difficulty
tells you how hard it is to make a refinement a success
It can be calculated with the following formula:
Degree/Level of difficulty = (Your current refinement x 3) - Ore Value
E.g. If your weapon is currently at +8 and you want to use Damascus Ore (Ore Value of 4),
Degree/Level of difficulty = (8 x 3) - 4
= 20
Then we look at the below table. With the difficulty level of 20, the success rate is -40%

However, This base success rate applies to NPC blacksmith only.
Because TECH and refining related skills affects Success Rates.

Formula to calculate success rates for player blacksmith = 0.8(Base success rate+(255/4)+15)
I round down to the lowest decimal point when i use 255/4 = 63
E.g. After calculating the level of difficulty (20), the base success rate is -40%.
Substitute base success rate into the above equation,
0.8(-40+(255/4)+15) = 30.4 = 30 (Round down)
We get the value of 30% Success Rate for Player Blacksmith at difficulty level of 20.
As for NPC blacksmith, Base success rate is 1%(any negative value will be treated as 1%. Originally -40%.)
[GALLERY=media, 961]Degree of difficulty by HaruChan posted Aug 26, 2016 at 1:55 PM[/GALLERY]​

Now that we know how to calculate the success rates for player blacksmith, the following information is obtained:
Degree/Level difficulty of 8
100% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Any ore to +4
Dama ore to +5
Mithril ore to +6
Orichaclcum ore to +7

Degree/Level difficulty of 9
94% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
HP Iron to +5
HP Damascus to +6
HP mithyl to +7

Degree/Level difficulty of 10
86% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Iron to +5
Damascus steel to +6
Mithril to +7
Orichalcum to +8

Degree/Level difficulty of 11-12
78% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Haematite to +5
HP Iron/Damascus ore to +6
Hp Dama/Mithril ore to +7
HP Mithril/Orichalcum ore to +8
HP Orichalum to +9

Degree/Level difficulty of 13
70% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Iron to +6
Dama steel to +7
Mithril to +8
Orichalcum to +9

Degree/Level difficulty of 14-15
62% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Haematite to +6
HP iron/Dama ore to +7
HP dama/Mithril ore to +8
HP mythril/Orichalcum ore to +9

Degree/Level difficulty of 16
54% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Iron to +7
Dama steel to +8
Mithril to +9

Degree/Level difficulty of 17-18
46% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Haematite to +7
HP Iron/Dama ore to +8
HP dama/Mithril ore to +9
HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +E
HP Orichalcum to +D

Degree/Level difficulty of 19
38% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Iron to +8
Dama steel to +9
Mithril to +E
Orichalcum to +D

Degree/Level difficulty of 20-21
30% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Haematite to +8
HP iron/Dama ore to +9
HP dama/Mithril ore to +E
HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +D
HP orichalcum to +C

Degree/Level difficulty of 22
22% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Iron to +9
Dama steel to +E
Mithril to +D
Orichalcum to +C

Degree/Level difficulty of 23-24
14% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Haematite to +9
HP iron/Dama ore to +E
HP dama/Mithril ore to +D
HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +C
HP orichalcum to +B

Degree/Level difficulty of 25
6% Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Iron to +E
Dama steel to +D
mithril to +C
orichalcum to +B

Degree/Level difficulty of 26-27
(If the calculation is negative, dont worry, it will be counted as 1%)
1% (-2% according to calculations) Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Haematite to +E
HP iron/Dama ore to +D
HP dama/Mithril ore to +C
HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +B
HP orichalcum to +A
1% is soooo little... Therefore we should use items to increase the chance of success
[GALLERY=media, 963]-2% by HaruChan posted Aug 26, 2016 at 1:58 PM[/GALLERY]

Degree/Level difficulty of 28
(If the calculation is negative, dont worry, it will be counted as 1%)
1% (-10% according to calculations) Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Iron to +D
Dama steel to +C
Mithril to +B
Orichalcum to +A
[GALLERY=media, 964]-10% by HaruChan posted Aug 26, 2016 at 1:58 PM[/GALLERY]

Degree/Level difficulty of 29-31
(If the calculation is negative, dont worry, it will be counted as 1%)
1% (-18% according to calculations) Success rate can be obtained if you use:
haematite to +D
Iron/HP Iron/Dama ore to +C
Dama steel/HP dama/Mithril ore to +B
Mithril/HP mithril/Orichalcum ore to +A
HP orichalcum to +S

[GALLERY=media, 965]-18% by HaruChan posted Aug 26, 2016 at 1:59 PM[/GALLERY]

Degree/Level difficulty of 32
(If the calculation is negative, dont worry, it will be counted as 1%)
1% (-26% according to calculations) Success rate can be obtained if you use:
Haematite to +C
Dama ore to +B
Mithril ore to +A
Orichalcum ore to +S
[GALLERY=media, 966]-26% by HaruChan posted Aug 26, 2016 at 1:59 PM[/GALLERY]​

You might have notice that for all the negative success rates, they are treated as 1%.
That's right! That means it doesnt matter what ore you use. The chance is 1% if you are not using any items to increase the Success Rates.

If you ARE using items to increase the Success rates, The success rate will be different for different ores.
This calculation will be a little tough.

If you are using Refinement powder or magic hammers, the following is the calculation method
Formulas that will be used:
Step1. Calculate the Degree of difficulty
Degree/Level of difficulty = (Your current refinement x 3) - Ore Value
Step 2. Calculate the Success rate for player blacksmith
Base success rate+(255/4)+15 (different from the formulas at the start without x0.8)
Step 3. Calculate the Failure rate
Failure rate=100% - Success rate
Step 4. Failure Rate divided by the Value of the refinement item
Refinement powder= 1.05
Super refinement powder= 1.1
Hyper refinement powder= 1.15
Magic Hammer= 1.2
Super Magic Hammer= 1.4
Hyper Magic Hammer= 1.6
Step 5. New Success Rate= 100 - answer of Step 4
Step 6. Final Success rate after putting skill rate of 0.8 into consideration
Step 5's answer x 0.8 x Value of the refinement item
Rounded down the the nearest decimal point

An example: Imagine i want to use orichalcum ore to +S and i want to use magic hammer​

Step 1. Calculate the Degree of difficulty
Degree/Level of difficulty = (14x 3) - 10 = 32
at difficulty 32, base success rate is -110
Step 2. Calculate the Success rate for player blacksmith
-110+(255/4)+15 = -32
Step 3. Calculate the Failure rate
Failure rate=100% - (-32) = 132
Step 4. Failure Rate divided by the Value of the refinement item
Magic Hammer= 1.2
132/1.2 = 110
Step 5. New Success Rate= 100 - 110 = -10
Step 6. Final Success rate after putting skill books rate of 0.8 into consideration
-10 x 0.8 x 1.2 = -9.6 (round off to nearest decimal = -10)
Orichalcum ore to +S with Magic Hammer success rate is -10%. But remember all negative success rates will be treated as 1%.


If you are using Refinement tickets, the following is the calculation method
Formulas that will be used:
Step1. Calculate the Degree of difficulty
Degree/Level of difficulty = (Your current refinement x 3) - Ore Value
Step 2. Calculate the Success rate for player blacksmith
Player blacksmith success rate = 0.8(Base success rate+(255/4)+15)
Step 3. Answer x the % of refinement ticket

An example: Imagine i want to use orichalcum ore to +S and i want to use refinement ticket 500%
Player blacksmith success rate = 0.8(-110+(255/4)+15) = -25.6 = 1%(all negative value will be treated as 1%)
1% x 500 = 5%
Orichalcum ore to +S with Refinement ticket 500% success rate is 5%


If you are using Smith Hammers , the following is the calculation method
Formulas that will be used:
Step 1.Calculate the Degree of difficulty
Degree/Level of difficulty = (Your current refinement x 3) - Ore Value
Step 2. Calculate the Success rate for player blacksmith
Player blacksmith success rate = 0.8(Base success rate+(255/4)+15)
Step 3. Answer + the % of smith hammer

An example: Imagine i want to use orichalcum ore to +S and i want to use Neo Smith Hammer
Player blacksmith success rate = 0.8(-110+(255/4)+15) = -25.6 = 1%(all negative value will be treated as 1%)
Step 3. 1% + 20% = 21%
Orichalcum ore to +S with Neo smith hammer success rate is 21%

All these calculation would be tedious. Luckily a table for success rates of different refinement item at difficulty level 26 onwards has been provided above.

Reference site: https://www.dopr.net/toramonline-wiki/seiren255​

 

Thanks, it's helpful.

 

OMG! This is helpful! You should change your title though so it can catch people's attention a very good job buddy! *clap clap* usually, people won't share these kinds of Infos XD *cough cough* greedy people..kudos to you
I'll be putting this to my watched threads :3

 

Umm...is there any other method to get the metal mats than maze? Especially, the rare metals.

 

You must be talking about ores? Refinement ores instead of metal :') you can buy them at Sololo or Mutoto like orichalcum, mithril
Hematites= piedra,eerie, ruin rats etc.
Damascus ores= stone soldiers
Mithril ores= miraegela, yelb, SG
You can also get them from stamp rewards ^^

 

Yes, the ores. But...they are scammers :') lol
How about High Purity quality ones?

 

C.B. is a greater scammer than Mutoto tho.. I bought around 8 HP Mithril to refine to +C, they're so overpriced and all failed. Then I bought 1 Orichalcum for 16k at the store and my refinement succeeded.

@HaruChan, the album containing your images is set to "Private", only you and the mods can see it.

 

Sadly, they can only be farmed from maze or get them from daily stamps.
But some of the High Purity ores can be made if you have 10 ores that is lower than "high purity"
Let's say, you used mithril ores and turned them to "Mithril"..then with "Mithril" you can make "High Purity Mithril" out of them ^^ but it's costly. That's why people who wants to get 3lock for their synthesist spends so much spina from buying them :')

 

Just changed it

 

Go to your Album page. You will see a box like this one in the right side:



Click on "Change Permissions" and select Everyone on "Can view media".

Also, I think you meant TEC 255 here? Or did your calculations show that there's no difference between 252 and 255?

 

Yes you are right >< Thank you for pointing out the error

 

Np, it was only an observation. Btw, MITHRIL ORE is also dropped by Masked Warrior. And the new monster Duston at Magic Waste Site drops Damascus Ore too.

 

always linked ur source if this not originally created by yourself, put credit for those found that table, ur table very similiar or maybe same with This , anyways good explanation in english ^^

 

I see. I'll check some other threads to find most ores at maze. I just had in mind to make a refiner of my own since I bought some stuffs to replace my old ones. Anyway, thanks

I'm in budget mode and thinking what I should do next about it. Meanwhile, farming is the better choice for now.
Btw, in order to have a better success rate, in your opinion, what's the minimum proficiency for a refiner to refine equipment? Or it doesn't affect the process at all since its success rate depends on the materials and items we use?

 

BS Proficiency is for success in creating equipment, it isn't needed for refining.

Refinement success rate depends on these factors: TEC stat, Refinement passive skills, Ore used, current refinement level and refinement item used. All these affect directly the final difficulty/risk.

 

Understood. So, other skills like upgrading and refining along with synthesize from alchemist tree aren't affected by proficiency, are they? It's just for making or crafting. I had been wondering about it since I bought these skills. Now, I can do it in peace lol.
Thanks for the help.

 

yes thank you for your reminder >< its edited ^^

 

Bump~

 

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:OOOOOOOOO
nice guide 12/10

question:
so that means that using ori for refine S is same success rate as using hematite for refine S?
if yes 8) i can save myself huge bulks of money from scammer sololo

also...... u said:

38% Success rate with 7 risk can be obtained if you use:
Iron to +7
Dama steel to +8
Mithril to +9
Orichalcum to +E

@_@ but ori from 9-E is 5crack....?
mind explaining i might have understood wrongly :"D