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How to Train Pets Efficiently (potential, level, and skill level)

Discussion in 'Pet/Taming' started by Sente Nelson, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. Sente Nelson

    Sente Nelson Well-Known Member

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    Is your character Lv140 yet?
    You can only take and train one pet at a time, so it's important to make the best use of your time.
    If you're going for max stats on a pet, and you happen to have a pet that is deserving of max stats, you're going to need the +50% Discipline Success bonus. +50% Discipline Success bonus can take your pet's Hard difficulty success rate from 60% to 110% (no, my math isn't wrong, Toram just works this way). By contrast, +30% Discipline Success bonus will only give you 90% success, sacrificing 10% of your added Potential.

    Because you can only level up one pet at a time, you don't really need to rush the Discipline process. Even waiting for +50% DS bonuses before you train, you'll still manage to perfectly train multiple new pets by the time one of your leveling pets gets to max level.

    Leveling is the same idea as before. Although there's no penalty for doing otherwise, you usually want a +50% EXP bonus before taking a pet out to train. Again, there is no penalty for doing otherwise, but if you have to choose between grinding with a +50% EXP pet or a +0% EXP pet, you'll make the best use of your time grinding with the +50% EXP pet...

    Except, that is, if one pet is closer in level to whichever boss you're farming. Pets have to actually participate in battles in order to gain EXP from them. I.e., if you target one Nightmare Roar, and your storm kills 100 more, then your pet will only get EXP from one of them because it will have only targeted one of them. Raising pets with mobs is a bad idea. You always want to train them using boss battles.

    And, like us, they seem to get EXP bonuses from fighting bosses that are of similar level to them. So the closer in level they are to a boss, the better. If you've already got your heart set on which boss you're farming, it may be better to take the pet that's closer in level to it.

    You can only take out one pet at a time to level it up. So once one of the pets you're leveling up has the 50% EXP boost on it, put the other ones away (Hibernation), and bring out the ones you're trying to discipline instead. Level up your +50% EXP pet while the others are getting hungry, and when you're done training for the day, put the +50% EXP pet in hibernation to preserve the EXP boost for later. And when the EXP boost runs out, or is about to run out, put the disciplining pets away and bring out your leveling pets again to try for another EXP boost.

    It's also not a bad idea to have multiple pets with the +50% EXP bonus depending on which skills they have. That way you can bring out a pet for any situation and still be making the best use of your time. Just be sure that, if you're not using it, it's in hibernation to preserve the bonus.

    In order to do all of this efficiently, you need as many pet slots as possible. As many pets going hungry so you can give them bonuses, and plenty of Hibernation slots to cycle through which pets are going hungry for bonuses.

    Both types of slots have different cost strategies:
    The cost of these increases linearly. Starting at 10k, then 20k, then 30k, etc. you only really NEED a few, though, so don't go overboard.
    These increase in number depending on how much land you have. I'm not sure the exact calculations as to how; I would love more information on this. All I know is that I had 4 pet slots at 18x5 squares, and didn't get my 5th pet slot until 18x9 squares.

    The cost of adding squares is tricky. It's (squares^2)*1000. So adding 1 square at once costs 1k, 2 squares at once cost 4k, 3 squares at once cost 9k, 4 squares at once cost 16k, 5 squares at once cost 25k, etc.

    Theoretically speaking, then, you want to add as few squares at once at a time. I.e., you theoretically want to expand in only one direction. However, there is a cap: Your land can only be 18 squares across. And after that, you'd have to pay (18^2)*1000=324k to expand again (I made this mistake T_T).

    If you only want 4 pet slots, then, only expand in one direction. It'll only cost you 25k*13=325k to get 18x5 for 4 pet slots.
    If you want 5 pet slots, then, the best way is to add as few squares as possible per expansion. Expand 5 left, 6 up, 6 left, 7 up, 7 left, 8 up, 8 left, 9 up, 9 up, 9 up, 9 up, 9 up, 9 up, 9 up, 9 up, etc.. This will be the cheapest way to get 18x9 for 5 pet slots. And every 18 squares will only cost you 81k*2=162k rather than 324k to buy all at once.
    If you want 6, idk. Ask someone with money to test it for you :'3 Or give me money and I'll test it for you~ ^.~

    Skills can level up in two ways. One is from frequent use (includes spamming Pet MP Heal), and the other is by the pet killing mobs.
    If you're trying to level up a high MP skill, such as Magic Lance or Raging blow, it may be better to kill mobs. If you're trying to level up low MP skills for some reason, such as Encourage or Critical Up, take it into a boss battle and let it spam those skills to its heart's content while a merc tanks the boss.

    It's also important to remember that, every level away from Lv10 that a skill is, it will take you twice as long to get to Lv10. Going from Lv5->Lv10, for example, only takes about 8 hours, whereas going from Lv1->Lv10 may take 128 hours. The quickest way to level up your pet's skills is to start from Lv5 :p

    To start with Lv5 Magic Lance, then, you'll have to try training an average of 20 pets. Not too bad tbh.
    When buying pets, the highest max level wild pets are Lv110. The highest max level stray pets (the ones that wonder into your land that you have to feed to tame) are whatever your own level is. So if you want Lv140 pets, you have to be Lv140 yourself and be willing to feed stray pets multiple times a day (or just spend orbs to tame them immediately).

    You can still do quite a few things with pets at your level though. You can rack up Power by leveling up pets and then fusing them; you can get useful skills and level them to Lv10, and you can increase the max level of your main pet by fusing it into pets of higher level than it is (only if both are max level). But getting to Lv140 and feeding and training tons of strays is the key to making a Lv140 dps pet. I'll send a link to the boss farming LINE group when I get back to internet x.x

    Level Grinder (for raising player level): http://line.me/ti/g/jfAVgRN8N7
    Toram Boss Farm (same, basically): http://line.me/ti/g/4zi5b8LyiM
    Pet Levelers: http://line.me/ti/g/AJOAwfXrfT
    Different pet builds (includes link to the dps pet build thread):
    http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...ts-and-their-ideal-masters.33972/#post-376102
    Haru-chan's complete guide to pet/master combinations
    (Includes Mage and Blacksmith hybrids, and how to save SP, but has a few miscalculations):
    http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/shishuis-pet-summoner-build-lvl-135-cap.26212/
     
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  2. Sente Nelson

    Sente Nelson Well-Known Member

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    Btw I promise this is my last guide on pets :3
     
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    I usually train 2 at a time( dang pet food bonus is hit or miss which is mostly miss)

    2 on training, 1 active, 1 room for stray.
    Skill training is always a drag. Since the pet "have to hit the dang target" to have skill exp. Best strategy i have is to use gentle pets as skill recipients. Since they get exp(and skill exp) while leeching on you. And since it is farm season i usually farm with my pet without the slow pace of pet attack.( sadly i got level 5 lance on a level 15 pet, dang luck)
     
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    Better than my luck. I rarely ever get any lances, and when I do, they’re Lv.1 or Lv.2 XD You can do it, just farm something that you can hit down to low hp with a weak bow, to low enough hp that your pet can finish it off d(^_^o)
    But rip ability to level up fast. My condolenses there x_x
     
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    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    I farmed santa potums like crazy. More than half gifted to guildies cos crap stats and cuteness lol. Got 2 gentle on that bunch, both floped out on skill set( dumped those two ) got 6 more in storage as stock. Farmed rocksaur( high level mobs ), got good haul 6 gentle, the rest is in storage for fusion stock( rejects are gifted to friends that i dont know ) all gentle lucked out got 2 lance at level 2 and level 1.
    Went shopping spree on cb, and since im out of cash bought 3 gentle pets on board. First try got a frigging level 5! And i was estatic, renamed the dang frosch LANCE and now is on level 9 at 46% till cap! To bad, max level is just 15 tho. Then again i still got my rocksaur fusion stock. So hopefully it will work out.
     
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    Btw, i use sleep traps(just lvl1) it is better than running around to avoid being killed and accidentally killing the target pet. Kick(also lvl1) i use if the dang pet missed the trap. Plus the skill won't kill the target that i'm trying to catch.
     
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    Wait, why is Gentle better for leveling things up? o.o
     
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    Gentle is designed NOT to attack thus it create a paradox on its usefulness. Since it never attacks it is redesigned as best pet leech in both exp and skill exp. And since i can just blast storms all day, i can have a productive farming/pet training session.
    Based on my experience with gentle. It gains skill faster as you increase the number of mob that have aggro on you.

    I farmed pova, nisel and zocktz ruins. And i found out that the best grinding spot is on Normal skeleton there. BUUTTT..... Instead of going to the regular NS room, i jump down and go to the same room. This room have a Golden Skeleton in it. I position myself near the center of the room and blast storm all day. Why go there? I use gs as a spam anchor for storm and it seems that the ns around it spawn faster too.

    Try it out for yourself.
     
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    Sweeeeet! Thank you!! 0: That makes it soooo much easier!

    What I always do to level up is, all of my Magic Lances happen to come with Blast Flare... So I usually just spam Pet MP Heal while my pet does the aoe x.x Ah well, it's good enough for me~
     
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    I wanted to shout this:
    Gentle pet gain exp from Storm farm !!!!!!
     
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    does pet lvl have effect on success rate for lvl of skill?
     
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    Do timid pets get exp too?
     
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    I just found a way to more easily get specific pet skills:
    A pet cannot get the same skill twice, so if you get a pet with the inherited skill restore, once you get blast flare, you will have a 50/50 chance of getting Magic Lance from there.
     
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    I'm going for a lv5 MP charge, so i've got both heavy smash and first aid on my pet, meaning i have a 50/50 chance of getting MP charge.
    then if it isn't lv5, i take another pet, give it heavy smash, then fuse and lock first aid and heavy smash, and repeat.
    I can also lock my pet's gentle nature
     
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    what's mp charge?
     
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    tamer skill
     
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    So, as I understood, Gentle nature would be a good Support Pet...
     
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    t(^_^t) make your mama proud Elite Member

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    You can use it as support. I grow my gentles (and their skills) then when its time to fuse I just change (chose) attributes to what i want.
     
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