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Hunter Skills Unravelled - Archer's Tools

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by Golden Phoenix, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. Golden Phoenix

    Golden Phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Sleep Trap [OP]
    Range: ~15m (bowgun)
    Restrictons: Cannot be used in combos
    Requires 3m from target to be set
    Gains: Target immobilised
    100 MP regenration on success
    Sunrise Arrow Damage Increased
    Pros :
    • 5-15 second freeze effect - Depends on certain parameters
    • Charge skill can used while taget is sleeping
    • Low mp cost
    • Up to 200 mp
    Cons
    • Limited use ~ 10 seconds cooldown
    • Any attack from trapper wakes target
    • Has 3 second set time - Potential Risk Factor
    • AOE enemy skills can disarm trap
    • Requires significant effort and coordination in battles while another party member possesses more aggro [Sniper Paradox]
    OP FACTORS [Negative Feedback] - Paradoxical Fighting Strategy
    1. While any attack from trapper might wake up target, any attack from other party members will NOT wake up target.
    2. The trapper will need to disable auto attack and stop fighting.
    3. A decent fighting strategy would include a trapper and an attacker.
    4. While sunrise arrow has been noted to have a maximum elemental, critical ,prorated and smited hit of 55k dmg and an average of 48 max dmg on 4 mini bosses, it remains a possiblity to exploit this status for further experimentation.
    5. An interesting argument from some interviews revealed that many did not want to lose the attacker rank and did not deem sleep a profitable skill to be used in battle.
    6. Besides, long ultimate mode boss battles or those with hp in the million range such as former event boss Zega , will be enhanced for prolonged battles. It has been verfied that warmonger ultimate mode could be put to sleep 7 times and resulted in a fairly easy battle with 2 snipers with sleep traps 2 mages. While this may remove need of a tank, some future parties could consist of 4 archers (Arch Sniper Build - Build will be posted after testing).
    7. Some difficulties encountered was with roga ultimate and demon's gate.
      Demon's gate was a case where it was impossible to inflict sleep due to immobility of taget.
      Roga could however be tested with a 40% success rate compared to the other bosses. This is a result of guard rate and rush attacks which disarm the trap. It was noted that in normal mode roga could only be inflicted sleep 2 times with 40 second interval and a prolonged testing battle time of 2 minutes.

    ~Phoenix
     
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    Is there by any chance that bows inflict more dmg with using shining arrow.?0.0
     
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    this provides some insight. i'll just share my thoughts on this skill.

    sleep trap can be useful, but could be easily replaced by any stunning skill. it's much more practical (you don't have to wait for the mob to move towards your trap, also the 3m range isn't very nice :(). stun can also reveal the breaking points on bosses, and you can stun regardless of the aoes inflicted by the boss xD

    the only reason you would want to get this skill is for the mp regen, and for the additional sunrise arrow damage. however, you could easily get an mp bar from a few auto attacks. sunrise arrow + snipe in a combo after sleep trap has potential, but i'm not willing to go get sunrise arrow and sleep trap just for that :rolleyes:
     
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    That has not been tested yet but does not seems logical. Id say the range might increase with a bow due to some info i got.
    But for damage, probably not.
    It will be tested with dmg values posted later.
     
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    That has not been tested yet but does not seems logical. Id say the range might increase with a bow due to some info i got.
    But for damage, probably not.
    It will be tested with dmg values posted later.
     
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    pretty sure the range is the same, 14m
     
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    Ill test it out later thnks for that
     
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    Dmg seems the same with bg and bow, range on both is 14m also u get 2x dmg with an arrow equipped
     
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    makes sense, after all this is the knight skills for bows :p
    (some of the sword based knight skills get bonus for shield)
     
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    Mhm^^
     
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    Yea lol its just an addition to bow/bowguns
    I wonder when spear skills will be up, i was expecting those instead of hunter skills
     
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    if the translation is correct, it will be some time in february :p
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    December^^ it had 12 then the symbol next to it meaning month
     
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    let's hope so...
    someone else said there was a space between 1 and 2 and it means 1st of February (+delay which will not really surprise anyone :p )
     
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    Thats true but jp's date format doesnt have the day first
     
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    Nice info there m8. Some more info=
    Sleep has max duration 15 secs
    It seems to recover more mp then 100mp when activated. Im not sure how much it recovers exactly.
     
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    Sleep 200mp bear 300mp
     
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    Can someone test if bullseye wake up the sleep ?
     
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    All skills and auto wakes the enemy from the sleep state
     
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    Ty
     

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