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Hypothetical Post-Update DW

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Tieguai, Feb 1, 2018.

  1. Tieguai

    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    After watching a couple of DW and Brawler about high aspd builds a question came into my mind.

    1)Full str rest agi
    2)Full agi rest str

    Which one does more damage?

    I know, the full str rest agi build should do more, due to higher crit damage, however, would a full agi aspd build be able to overcome the damage of 1)? Due to faster motion speed, letting me attack faster?
    I mean, this build puts a main focus on norm hit damage and higher aspd increases its motion speed.

    I personally think 1) should still be better due to the cdmg - or am I wrong?
     
  2. Lynxia

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    it really doesnt matter both will deal the same amount of overall damage in the end, it is more based on which option would better suite your playing style :)
     
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    Okay, good to know :) Think I am more of a speedster, at least regarding DW, so I guess I'll stick with that in the future, ty!

    Edit: You didn't compare a full str rest agi with a full agi rest str right? Just two full agi builds with different aspd, now I do wonder again :D Any other views in that regard?
     
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    If you are gonna go on that route of questions, Lynxia will reply with yet another video for it too. He has videos for almost every DW iirc. ;)
     
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    heres one it is a very old video, i forgot to add the full str + agi one. i will do an update of a similar video like this so you can get a clear comparison :)
     
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    impact doesn't allow half mp bars, it always rounds up.
    the mp cost of rampage after impact is 3.
     
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    Perfect, ty so much! :D

    No need for an extra Video, this has been proof enough :D
     
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    Also good to know; makes it easier for me :p
     
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    if u gonna go rampage as dmger better use some skills with blade skills too or atleast twin slash
    if ur gonna rely on rampage last slash for dmg better use dex over str and agi for now since sub weap atk aint that useful
    if ur gonna yse rampage for speed 1.1k is good enuf for ur build
     
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    Since I'll also rely on flash blast, which should get a bonus from subhand DMG as a DW skill, i guess I'll take full str Rest agi or full agi Rest str. I think this way its a little more balanced between the the DMG skills, and my charging slash or lvl 150 DW skill would also benefit more from one of those builds :p

    Edit: If anybody is interested for the exact values:

    255 agi 100 str 25 dex (lvl 150) gives 319 more subhand atk than 255 str 100 agi 25 dex (lvl 150). Also with the full agi rest str/dex build you have around 900 more aspd , 275 more flee and around 180 more cspd, in turn, however 4% less stability and 31% less cdmg. !!!!!Both builds have 206 hit and 32% crate, I'm not sure if that is enough for the hit rate; crate will be boosted by main weapon and armor stats, so that shouldn't be a problem!!!!!

    These calculations have been made on coryn.club and with clean Leve Fangs, Adventurers Garb and Top Hat/Unsheathe Bangle.

    For me, this means that after the update I'll most likely switch to the full agi rest str/dex build, as it suits me more.
     
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    dw has no lvl150skill...
     
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    Yes, hence I also said "would" :D :D :D
     
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    nope no skill at 150 on dw since its a subclass of 1h not a main class such as blade//halberd/mononofu/shot/martial and magic
    its like dagger and shield skill tree
    since to obtain dw u need to be lvl 30(not sure) and its lvl2 skills are at lvl 50
    lvl3 at 90
    i think there will be a dw lvl4 skill but most likely at cap 170 not 150
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    adjustments not skill release
     
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    Oh you are right, in another thread somebody said something about new skills for DW as well, but it totally makes sense :)
     
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