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Hypothetical Post-Update DW

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Tieguai, Feb 1, 2018.

  1. Tieguai

    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    What do you guys think about a post-update, full Eva (60%) flash-blast/rampage DW?

    Let's say we do a full str rest agi with focussing sp on maxing out eva to 60 (light armor skils and advanced evasion, the DW passives, shadow step, flash blast, swords mastery, quick slash and war cry, rampage and perhaps swords technique, impact on 7, the battle skills (dunno about intimidating power/its effects) and survival skills.

    Now, we use this combo (preparation)
    Reflex-Warcry(save)-impact(cons)-Rampage(smite)-flash blast(cons)-shadowstep(cons)

    In battle we will evade a lot, thus ruining proration for physical skills, but in turn boosting proration for auto hit attacks (are my assumptions correct?)
    Before the final hit one could use impact/spinning slash or simply a combo that prorated magically in order to boost the DMG of the final hit.

    Flash blast will deal DMG, auto hit will hit nicely, especially if the proration provided by flash blast gives us unsheathe - if not, we could still use manual shadowstep. Or an impact-shadowstep combo.
    Ampr should also be huge, perhaps you could even add another combo with a DPS skill.

    Now, as rampage buff only applies to main hand, one could argue that a full dex rest str or full dex rest agi, build may be better - I'm no expert.


    Anyways, what do you guys think about this hypotherical build?

    Any suggestions and criticism are highly welcome! :)
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Since its a support skill (can be used outside of battle) I doubt adding smite tag to it will boost the damage.
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    It's also an attacking skill so we'd just have to see
     
  4. Tieguai

    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    Actually, as far as I was able to research/find out, the final hit is supposed to get a damage boost by it. Hence, my suggestion of maybe maxing swords technique.
     
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    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    It could definetly work, though you might want to use rampage as a saver, but that depends on wether or not it is affected by damage bonuses/penalties from combos. You might also want to have a main dps combo because of the massive amount of AMPR, though I can imagine that you already had one in mind.
     
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    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I am currently trying to decide which DPS skill would be best for this, but, AS this is a post-update build we will have new skills ;)

    Now I'll just need to lvl up x.x 128 rn and stuck, don't find parties for York..

    And i'm also trying to figure out the best stat distribution, cannot decide.
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Personally, in my 2nd acct, I rely on Flash Blast for farming mobs to level my 3 Dual Wield Characters there, and the one thing i want is to reduce my dodge stat. Rampage being able to do that is the main thing i'm looking forward to, not the damage of the last three hits. So in my case, im using it as my saver, and I'm keeping it at Lv1 unless someone here convinces me it has more benifits the higher the skill level.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I dont think so.
    Flash blast is similiar too its damage is not boosted by the tags.
     
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    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    So reducing Dodge indeed contributes to increasing Eva rate?
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Dodge procs before evasion so if dodge occurs evasion wont.
    But no need to worry about it lmao rampage sets your dodge to 0 as well xD
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Thing is that's conditional, this one doesn't really have a condition per se. Just have to auto attack for long enough then you get to shove a whoosh in their facehole. Either way, all we can do is wait and see
     
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    If i really should use such a build, which xtals would i use?
    I don't know too much about them.

    From what i concluded for armor you use HP boosting xtals? Roga and iconos was it? or was it ifrid?

    For weapon I guess goovua would be best, right? I mean 100 unsheathe, 6% eva and 3% agi? or rather odelon? Or both? Vor none of those?

    And for stats, a7cccd14 for weapon and armor?
     
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    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Iconos and Roga both boost hp, but you can only equip one at a time so you would want to equip Iconos. Ifrid boosts mp.

    Goovua would probably be better as long as you still need more evasion, but odelon is better if you don't.

    Full crit works well for most builds, so I think it would be the best option.
     
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    Tieguai Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot!

    You can upgrade roga with ico right? Is it that ico overwrites roga or will i benefit from both xtals?
     
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    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Iconos is used to upgrade roga, so you'll have to get both.
     
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    Let me kill this thread now,

    You cannot use rampage in combos anymore
     
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    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Let me kill your reply now,

    A lot of skills are going to be buffed/nerfed in a few days/week; rampage is one of the ones that is being buffed. Rampage will be available for combos, this means that it will be an incredibly efective skill for sword users since your auto attacks will be able to contribute significantly to your dps, and it even gives +25 AMPR at level 10.
     
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    You never know for sure,
    It may get buffed but no idea if its available in combo
     
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    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Could you do some #research first please.
     
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    My bad xD
    I had no idea and I wanted to troll
     
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