Impact LUK Mage o.o (*NOT A GUIDE*)

I was really hoping for a link . I guess not every rpg out there has a reliable wiki.

 

Ah, I had just seen from your signature that you have 100 int invested into stat, that's why you want to try adding damage by using impact . Originally, i thought that your build will have int somewhere around 70-80 (Full Luck), so I had been suggesting you to take shield as sub-weapon. Well, it's up to your choice if you want to pursue the impact damage. However, if you choose to use shield, you may want to learn Force Shield and Magical Shield to boost your HP by 1000.

Well, actually I had been thinking that you will need to position yourself to avoid boss red/blue attack as well as to make your party will be able to see the unbreakable parts when you conduct your combos. But, now I had grasped your intentions better. With this kind of stun-lock build, you will definitely need to learn Quick Draw.

 

1st >> I've heard is that luk only affect on mini boss and mobs it doesn't work on bosses.
2nd>>what should be 2nd stat?? if int (for md)or vit(for tank)
3rd>>if u equip md as ur sub weapon it will reduce ur matk.

 

Thanks for noticing my siggy . Whether or not I maxed my LUK stat, I'm hoping that in the future it will be possible to max two stats. I think that by then, this build will be very good. Thanks for the Shield skill tip .

That's a relief . For a good, long while there I was seriously considering scrapping Quick Draw. I'm gaining confidence in the build now, but I still think it's lacking .

1st - I don't know if this is true . Do you have any sources? I'm curious
2nd - Hmm for my build, it's definitely INT since I'm also looking to farm NC with this character. However, I do think that building 100 VIT rest LUK could make a good tank. Don't take my word for it though, as I've never made a proper tank before. I'm building this character with only my AGI brawler knowledge.
3rd - I tried it just now and it reduced my ATK. No change in MATK

 

Im not sure abt drop rate someone told be abt it. and in my case when i equip md as sub it decrease matk and atk both u can see a note also (Equipment and crystal abilities of sub weapon not work,however magic device bonuses for skills will work if the main weapon is not staff) confirm it and skill md affect is power wave as sub weapon i dont know abt any other skill it affect.

 

So I tested a few things:

Spoiler

Test 1: Impact damage
• MD Main - 3.6-3.8k (608 MATK)
• Knuckle Main - 1.5k (598 MATK)
• Knuckle + MD - 3.7k (598 MATK)
• Staff - 1.4k (579 MATK)
• Staff + MD - 1.5K (579 MATK)
• Staff + Knuckle (610 MATK) (I used a different staff to have closer MATK to the others) - 1.5k

1.5k x 250% = 3.75k
Seems this info is accurate, and there seems to be no bonus damage for Staff . Knuckle as sub reduced my MATK from 700 to 610, which should be my base MATK since I equipped gears with +15% MATK, therefore cancelling Knuckle's (sub) -15% MATK.

Test 2: Storm damage (same MATK as above)
• MD Main - 1.4k/hit
• Knuckle Main - 1.39k/hit
• Knuckle + MD - 1.39K/hit
• Staff - 2k/hit
• Staff + MD - 2.1k/hit
• Staff + Knuckle - 2.3k/hit

This is weird. I thought Storm does +100% damage if using staff "

*this is not an extensive test*

Anyway, I did another test. I equipped different weapons and put MD as sub. Watch the ATK and MATK changes in the video below: (Idk how to embed. Halp.)
https://www.facebook.com/1000159599...41827.100015959941662/139996313209033/?type=3

 

Woww, that was a nice damage boost in impact. I can sense a magic-swordsman build when the cap has risen to around 150 ^^.
Also, idk if this information is correct, but i did feel a increase in drop when fast farming minotaur in normal mode using luk mage . The rank bonus doesn't seemed to be affected tho

 

Just wondering did the area of effect increase when uses MD instead of staff ?

 

The max is 3m (Impact Lv7 when I tested it). Any further and it won't hit the target with whatever main or sub weapon o.o/

 

Isn't there a magic swordsman build guide already tho ? Although I haven't read it yet.

Drop RNG is not up my alley unfortunately. Glad to know it works tho

 

Idk. But, at the current lv cap, I think magic swordsman wont be able to out-dps 2H, Halberd, or even Sniper

 

I see. It's about the DPS

 

First post updated

 

Knuckles only converts 50% of its weapon attack to matk , so for example you are using @50 base knux , you get 50 atk but only 25 on matk. This also include refine bonuses.

 

Like I said the wiki is misleading.
Storm damage with staff +100% DOES NOT MEAN LITERAL +100% damage.
Theres only a difference of 1 on the multipliers (staff multiplier = 3, other wep multiplier = 2) that means storm will only do +50% Damage while staff equipped.
+50% damage of 1.4k :- 1.4k*1.5 = 2.1 which is close to your value by removing stability changes.

And nope your md calculation is incorrect as well.
+250% damage does not mean you have to multiply it by 2.5
+250% damage means you have to multiply it by 3.5
If it indeed was +250% damage with md then your dmg should be 5.25k+ not 3.6k.
You need to take 20+ different values to make sure theres no stability error.

 

Thanks for the info! However, that was not the goal of the test. I purposely used knux that could give me a close enough MATK to the rest of my items to get precise results.

That was the goal of the test, to check if the +100% from wiki is real or not. I'm absolutely sure now that it is not, and I got an accurate enough value from the test.

Thanks for the clarification yet again! My skills are getting rusty XD. The right description should then be 'Impact does 250% damage when equipped with MD' or 'Impact does +150% damage when equipped with MD' instead of 'Impact does +250% damage when equipped with MD'

I'm not sure how many times I cast the skills, but what I did was average the values I got.

Ahh man if only someone could compile info like this in one place (not me tho xD too much work). It would definitely help a ton of players, provided that the info is accurate.

 

as for equips i prefer md int+12 +12%dmg to dark light elm and for armour 12%dmg dark int12 ... Then the obvios int xtals etc... but thats my choice.. and it seems to wrok good for me

 

Hi Ewp ^^. Can I bother to you test the tumble-rate of Impact when you use staff, knux, md, and knux+md? If the tumble rate does increased with md, then knux-md tumble rate will be savage

 

Tumble rate is lower for md while higher for staff.
Damage is higher for md lower for staff.
Lvl10 impact for staff is 100% tumble inflict. But not for md.

 

I believe what @mayam said is right. That's the reason why I put Sonic Wave before Impact for insurance XD

That should be great fof farming NC . How much pot is required to make this ? I'd love it if it's not a gamble