1. Welcome to the Toram Online Forums. Please make sure to read our rules and be friendly to all our members.
    Click here to read the rules before posting.
    Dismiss Notice

Impact max damage?

Discussion in 'Mage' started by orange, Sep 20, 2016.

  1. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    I've been experimenting with this "under-used" skill recently. The damage buff from equipping MD is appreciable but, I wonder about its max damage potential.

    I use it in this form, as an Motion speed spam unlimited combo build. My toon is level 25 now, full int with 1st anniversary MD main weapon, philo's ring, Straye garb, crystal earring.

    1 int = 4 matk, 2-3 atk for MD.

    so the desired skill build goes like this

    level 10 quick draw, shell break, impact, mp boost, holy fist, smash, bash.

    MP charge, 1 is enough, u have Shell break proc, Quick draw proc, and Mp boost.

    Holy fist/smash > Shell Break (save) > Impact (smite) > Bash /smash (swift)

    and perhaps

    Holy fist/smash > Impact (smite) > holy fist/ smash (cons) > Shell Break (cons)

    the damage of impact increases due to proration. therefore, impact's damage increases with each subsequent cast using this combo. On forest wolf, first cast is close to 3k impact damage, and as I spam, it slowly increases to 6k. Highest I've ever gotten is 6.9k. When Smited at 150 percent, the damage can reach close to 10k, beginning at 4.5-5k on first cast.

    But holy fist and brawler skill damage is around 100-200 each T_T... level 1 holy fist for now

    The damage is low compared to storm mages but the "spammability" is what attracts me. Unlike sword-fu or gun-fu's spam combos which suffers from decreasing damage, this actually have steadily increasing damage till it reaches max proration. Nonetheless, the damage isn't high.

    I hope this build can compete for DPS, though breaker, is almost confirmed. As for boss runs against the likes of nure...I have nothing apart from impact as main DPS, so go equip a staff and do the normal storming or magic arrowing (I dislike the spell, got tired of it when farming...)

    What I do in boss runs is get close to the boss and spam the combo till he dies, or I die. With flinch, tumble, and stun in a combo, one is bound to get him. On the off chance that I'm in an aoe and the boss doesn't get stunned/flinched/tumbled, gg.

    I intend to go agi after maxing intel, and replace md main to knux main, md sub to utilize heavy smash at late game, or whatever 4th tier skills has to offer.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2016
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,055
    Likes Received:
    3,278
    IGN:
    Red_Fox
    with ~800matk i did ~4000 damage without extra effects.
    i guess you can do more ;)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Voodooed

    Voodooed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2016
    Messages:
    155
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    IGN:
    Main: Voodooed
    Screenshot_2016-09-20-02-04-37-1.png
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  4. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    I really hope that this build can reach a satisfactory level of damage per second. It doesn't seem powerful at first, but the combination of breaking and proration are its greatest assets. But I guess I can never beat a Triple kick-fu spammers.

    4k damage doesn't sound too good though...the damage multiplication seems to be x5 from your info and mine without added proration. Thats lower than Tkick's x 9 or tempest's nad storm's x 9-10 and snipe's x11-12.

    Guess T-kick's short animation and high damage output allows it to reign as the king of spam skills.

    It's like regigigas versus archeops lol.

    OMGSH?!!!!
     
  5. SirEgg

    SirEgg cancerous breakfast Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    728
    IGN:
    SirEgg
    40k on low def mobs , maybe 10k-20k avg

    You'll ran out of mana quick tho when bossing and when using save tag your dmg would be abit low.
    Quite fun to do tho.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    Soo, with a toon level 45 on volg:

    8.5k impact damage after maximum prorate with
    smash > Shell Break (save) > Impact (smite) > Bash (swift)

    Stun locks the boss, the damage fluctuates between 7.5k to 8.5k for impact. If 150% smited, the damage should break the 10k mark. It's a great great breaker build because there isn't a need to stop the spamming. Though with 1100 mp and maxed shell break, I'm still hungry for mana. Gotta max quick draw soon and add mp xtals or equips till i get 1500 or 2000 mana pool.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    Level 55 toon now with 762 matk.

    tested on volg with the same combo.
    I got 10k plus highest. Fluctuates at around 8500-just above 10k before the defense increase.
    When guard break procreates, I usually do a 150 percent smited impact combo. on volg, max i got was 17k after guard break.
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2016
    • Winner Winner x 1
  8. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    Update again, level 61 toon with exactly 800matk

    on volg normal again (I want fiery gems)

    More than 50 percent of the time, 10k impact damage before volg increases defense. Getting 17k on 150 percent smited is easy when guard break procreates, if not its arnd 15-16k. Max impact damage i got was 18.5 k. These numbers looks great, but when you compare this with a stormer, it doesn't look too good. A stormer, at the same matk, can easily do 24k storm damage 150 percent smited (if it hits 6 times) this number isn't even 250 percent prorated yet.... at max proration, I'm guesing 30-40k damage. with elemental staff, 50k...go crunch the numbers lol.

    Had a duel with a staff fu arnd level 59, his dps edged me out by just a bit on forest wolf. Though I managed to get breaker rank all out of the 2-3 battles. Don't tell the staff fu that the combo actually reduces tkick damage since the combo has 3 physical skills and 1 magic XP. Both of us didn't have the best equips.

    For this build, maxed quick draw and shell break is a must. Stocking on MP xtals, preferably mauez and Pillar golem xtal is ideal since, ud be spamming almost non-stop. I usually finish volg battle with 800 out of 1200 mp left. That means, I can continue spamming for a long time, and quick draw is not even maxed yet. Should be getting mp boost to get more MP.

    Than max magic mastery, magic up, and the "low chance to increase magic damage" passive (ud be spamming so many times, it is bound to procreate)

    This build, though it deals mainly magical damage, works really well with a stormer as

    1. you interrupt the boss well and you lock it in its place.
    2. your combos can help increase magic skill damage, and lowers physical skill damage due to damage dropoff.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2016
  9. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2015
    Messages:
    5,426
    Likes Received:
    2,933
    IGN:
    BK.
    If ur using impact for dmg its better to use md with it aswell, can reach 50k+
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    Yup, I'm using md on this build. 50k is delicious damage for a 2 mp skill with awesome spammability. I hope to reach those numbers someday...

    Still a level 61 toon nw....
     
  11. SirEgg

    SirEgg cancerous breakfast Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    728
    IGN:
    SirEgg
    With 1780 matk using md, I get to hit ms with an avg of 32k per impact (holy fist - impact smite - smash cons) but the mp usage really hurts alot even if i had more than 1k mp , but still i get to know now how does those fu's feels like when they spam constantly.

    I feel like this build will shine as an ampr, fast dps, build in the future after we get to have a decent amount of agi , atkspd ,ampr and also with the help of power wave which ensures stronger normal atcks.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    I guess ud do roughly 16 k max if u use the one mp combo.... yea thats how those fu builds feel like i guess...

    yea thats how those fu builds do =)
     
  13. SirEgg

    SirEgg cancerous breakfast Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    728
    IGN:
    SirEgg
    I did try it with this 1mp combos tho
    Holy fist - sneak attack (save) - javelin (swift) - assult atck (cons) - impact (smite) - smash (cons)
    27k avg per impact , quite long but satisfactory
    And
    Holy fist - sneak attack (save) - smash (swift) - impact (smite) - assult attck (swift)
    A faster combo than the 1st one but abeit weaker
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2016
    • Like Like x 1
  14. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    I prefer the second one for its speed, ud only be doin just arnd 4-5k less. ud be able to dish out more combos too. putting shell break at last slot would be better imo for mp recovery . Thats the other key skill for unlimited combo fu builds.

    I've never exceeded the level 70 mark proper (my main is an agi brawler at level 70), so I'm unsure abt how high those damage can reach past that level.
     
  15. ViPR

    ViPR Elite Observer Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    1,145
    Likes Received:
    516
    IGN:
    ViPR
    Looks like the granny xtal is right up this builds ally
     
  16. SirEgg

    SirEgg cancerous breakfast Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    728
    IGN:
    SirEgg
    Unfortunately I only tested this using my mage so I don't have the necessary skills like shell break sadly.


    Granny xtal wont work on this build because this build is a heavy mp eater type of build and the -mp from granny is just too much to risk just for a +100matk
     
    • Like Like x 2
  17. GyroP

    GyroP Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2015
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    1,857
    IGN:
    GyroP
    Granny's -cspd nut -mp :')
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. orange

    orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2016
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    33
    IGN:
    harus
    Anyway, thx for the test, really appreciate it. This build will not out dps mainstream I guess, but its a well balanced, interesting one-trick pony lol. with quick draw and shell break, i get good mp recovery, and can spam almost non-stop unless, im unlucky as in, both fails to procreate after spamming 8-10 times 1 mp combo.

    as for xtals, PG and mauez FTW. roga is still good for armors though

    Granny xtals seem plausible since, you wont care for CSPD with insta-cast impact =)
     
  19. SirEgg

    SirEgg cancerous breakfast Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2016
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    728
    IGN:
    SirEgg
    Kill me for this humiliation, mistook granny's negative for deathcolon.

    Yup granny might workk , but u can never use that md for farming ever again!!!!1
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  20. ViPR

    ViPR Elite Observer Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    1,145
    Likes Received:
    516
    IGN:
    ViPR
    One glaring problem is ur F***ed versus boss tht hate tumble and because impact doesn't auto lock bosses tht move along could dodge the aoe(Happens to me at goovua all the time:(:(:()
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page