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Introducing my new pure unsheathe dualweild

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Madara Uchiha, May 29, 2017.

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  1. Madara Uchiha

    Madara Uchiha Well-Known Member

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    Hello guys it's my first post ^^
    I would name this build as Indestructible Madara build
    Because he evades all attack and has 2 sword susanoo

    • This build which I made is based on present dual weild skills and effective use of unsheate attack
    • This is not an evasion build it's just the bonus on physical bosses which you can do by evasion attack and for magic bosses you have to use charging slash as main unsheathes damage and phantom to survive and deal damage
    • This build can be highly customised with different type of equips and you won't have any problem of resetting status or skills,afraid of magic boss?get ampr on some equips -make sure you have most of xtall which does unsheathes and short range damage and trust phantom and charging slash.
    • I just solo imitacia the current magic boss all that matter was hp and ampr in between battle you can do around 6k ×12 and in the end I did 9.5k ×12.
    Status :
    Full str rest dex or full dex rest str
    • Full str then rest dex will increase crit damage but attack will be less when compared to dex /str
    • Full dex and rest str will increase overall attack but cdmg will be less
    • I use full str rest dex because for every level up you can increase your out put damage whereas if you use full dex rest str for every three levels you will see the change in damage
    • I don't prefer agi because you will dodge more than evade
    Skills :
    Weapon -

    • I have all dw skills max level 10.
    • All the skills work in chain so you will need it.
    • The damage skills are Twinslash,charging slash and phantom slash.
    • Charging slash and shadow step are two active skills which do unsheathes damage
    • But the main damage comes from every evasion which includes unsheate damage and flashblast.
    • If you have enough evasion you can evade all physical attack.
    • No need for blade skills because the damage is enough and need to save points for future skills but you can take blade mastery which increase attack of 1h sword
    Armor skills -
    • Light armor mastery and advance evasion :This will increase evasion rate
    More evasion more unsheathe damage
    Support skill -
    • Hp up and mp up
    Mage skill:
    • mp charge 1sp
    Build :
    1.This build is for solo boss only and it depends mainly on how frequently you can do unsheathe damage i.e evasion attack along with other unsheathes skill like charging slash
    2.To use unsheate damage you need to evade continues to deal unsheate
    3.You need reflex level 10 flashblast level 10 which is the core of this build
    4.With this build 50 %damage comes from evasion and acts like silent killer skill
    5.Main dps skill are :
    • Phantom slash max upto 10k ×12 with the basic equip which I have
    • charging slash max 48k ×2 which is unsheathe skill
    • Twinshlash : 54K can increase with better equips
    6.The main problem is magic bosses since you can't use reflex the damage output is less because you can't evade magic and now flashblast plays a role by increasing unsheate damge which includes charging slash skill damage.Phantom timed proper will be your damage and survival skill

    Physical bosses :
    • They are best place to check your damage because of evasion unsheathes,flashblast,
    charging slash and phantom all skills will be deal maximum damage and you don't need to worry about anything

    Magic bosses :
    • Dw when use reflex the physical and magic Def reduces to 90%, plus with present progress of game there is no magic evasion so you won't be able to more unsheathes damage when compared to non magic bosses.
    Counter magic bosses:
    • All you have to do is not to use reflex at certain bosses but you can still keep flashblast which will enhance unsheathes attack
    • Refining your armor and add will give you resistance like if you refine it to + A on both you get 28% physical and magic resistance
    • Using corroded knight captain xtall will add 500 both melee and magic barrier which resets for every 30 sec .
    • Magic boss are threat to everyone but with dw skills you can survive better than anyone.

    Why focus on evasion? Why not just use charging slash as unsheathe?
    • Dual weild is a class which has bonus damage on evasion which has no limits due to god speed
    • Even if other class take reflex and flashblast time of buff is reduced to 10 sec.

    Defects in build?
    • First thing not using unsheathes against magic bosses :- you can use charging slash but prefer phantom coz life saving skill and magic can't be evaded
    • second no ampr? Well it's not the dw skill fault get ampr equip ^^ don't need full a bit is enough
    • third is this cheap build? Yes if your a constant player you can buy all equip none of them cost me more than 2.2m (it's because I buyed cerberes )I farmed all other xtall

    • what needs to be worked on?
    》I don't think I have to do much except getting little ampr
    》some people say use astute :- it's all up to you
    》ill update my build when it's ready with both unsheathes and ampr

    Xtalls with equip :
    Weapon

    Iwoon:atk7crit 12crit%12crit damage12
    - BK
    Armor
    Twilight dragon:atk7crit 12crit%12crit damage 12
    - Cerberus
    Add
    Warmonger helmet - Twilight dragon
    Ring
    Unsheathe bangle - Goouva
    Enjoy have fun ^^

    This is the damage you can do:
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  2. Wesfun36

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    Could be a nice build but needs more detail in it before I would use it ^^ Either way *bump*
     
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    i still cant get over how this build is so OP its a great one and i recommend it to all the people who are into dw
     
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    Bump, nice
     
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  5. Nyao

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    Go into detail about what dual wielding skills you use. Also include add/special gear and recommended weapon/armor stats. BUMP
     
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  6. Cella [Yurie ♥]

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    Has tested this 6 months ago, and I was so disatisfy with the result....
    i don't know how it has became after DW buff several months ago, but 6 months ago was like a joke. .-.
     
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  7. Madara Uchiha

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    Test this build again.
     
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    All missing is detail explanation :)
     
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    Could maybe post what armor, swords, add & special gears are being used and swords? Dual Wield is very technical so equips/stats for builds I think would be more beneficial as a whole ^^ *bump*
     
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    Please try this on bosses like Imitacia and other magic heavy bosses.

    And explain more how and why it does damage like that.

    And why phantom slash. Phantom isnt an unsheathe skill iirc.

    What happens of you fight bosses that always use aoes fractionals and magic, would you lose 50% of your dps?

    And how about survivability. With reflex on, and you close to 0 MDEF and would likely always get one shot with every magic damage skill you cant evade.
     
  11. Madara Uchiha

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    Do you have any other way of using unsheathes other than charging slash and shadow step? If it's there plz tell me I would change my build
    Most of the high magic damage are aoe which you can escape by moving away
    And I have not taken direct 3k magic damage without aoe
     
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    Sorry for inconvenience it was my first post I updated it hope you go through it again
     
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    I can't load the SS ╥﹏╥. Any chance for a video ( ´ ▽ ` )ノ
     
  14. Cella [Yurie ♥]

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    there is.... DON'T PLAY FULL UNSHEATHE coz it'll really limit your choice of skill. Unsheathe is a mechanic that should support DW not DW support unsheathe
     
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    When you make this build you will have 9 skill point left you might use it to your skill of choice
    The speciality of dw is unsheate damage what they can do when compared to other class
    Utilising unsheathes and ampr is the basic of dualweild and they survival type of build with the present skill set
    Altering any of the above will not make you dw but a better 1h swordsman
     
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    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Well good luck, coz I've tested it 6 months ago... cost me rebuild character more than 5 times with unsatisficing result.

    Unsheathe's damage is a weak DPS also fragile, it has no outstanding strength with a lot of weaknesses...

    If you insist to spoon your rice using plate from a spoon, then good luck!

    PS : it's all my opinion from my own experience.
     
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    It's not a dps build it does decent damage and has high surviving skills and for those who like evasion attacks they can try this
     
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    "survive" is what I doubt.... coz you can only survive from physical skill (where most physical skill only deal not-high-damage), but u'll instantly die by fractional attack or magic attack, they can't be evaded.....

    remember that 95-90% defense reduction from reflex
     
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    Why would I use reflex when I can't evade magic? Just need to know where to use reflex I guess
    And for physical damage you can try solo goouva and bk to see how much physicaldamage they can do : )


    I would depend on flashblast unsheathes bonus and skills like phantom,charging slash and shadow step these skills will help you survive from magic bosses
    Physical bosses :evasion +skill dmg
    - Damage taken : is very less cause you evade
    Magic bosses : only skills
    - Damage taken : is same as other class if you don't use reflex
    Line I'd : Raqwaza
     
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  20. TheXIIIthGuy

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    Actually, Fractionals can be evaded and even dodged (need 900+ dodge for that; summoning @mayam for proof).

    And I'm going to (try to) judge this build the most calmly possible.
    What I like:
    - The amount of detail in the build guide: you've done quite the research and it somewhat shows in how you wrote your guide.
    That's sadly what I could find. Now I apologize if I'm going to sound very rude, but here's what I think you should work on:
    - Lack of Blade Skills: You said that "you didn't need them" which is fair, but at least consider maxing Astute. It's a strong skill (for a 1MP move) that increases crit rate quite significantly, and is a cheap combo starter. Plus there's a bunch of good utility skills there.
    - Lack of survivability: You have around 2k HP, which is pretty low considering the current bosses (2k+ attacks aren't that uncommon anymore, even if they're AoE). You can't always rely on being able to dodge an AoE; sometimes you just have to take it. Also, Reflex is a risky move, because loss of DEF and MDEF is more significant when you're under 200.
    - Overreliance on evasion: Evasion is a nice stat to have, but it's only that in the end. There's no way to have a good amount of evasion to rely on without sacrificing a lot of useful stats and resources. Your build will have 35% evasion, which isn't enough. Also, never rely on Flash Blast for DPS. I did max it on my build, but it's due to the Unsheathe buff scaling with its level, and not for its damage. In fact, I'd rather dodge than evade with Flash Blast on for various reasons.
    - Too many DPS skills: Twin, Charging and Phantom are a lot of DPS skills. Phantom is somewhat justified due to it being a good option if you are forced to fight something like ECB, but Twin and Charging clash with each other. I'd get rid of Twin if you want to stay within the Unsheathe theme.
    Well, those are just my 2 cents on your build. It shows potential, but it could be much more. Good luck with finding what it could be!
     
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